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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:35 am 
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Just saw footage of their runner actually going goal side of the pack just before the siren, that's a free isn't it?


Only if it was a Carlton Runner.
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The non goal review thing just shits me. @#$%&! the goal review off completely if it's only going to be used sometimes.

They can't review it if the FB plays on after the decision. It's a failing in the rules and they played on straight away. Those are the sorts of things that separate the good teams from the rest. The tricks and the discipline.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:38 am 
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Three @#$%&! umpires and not one of the cauliflower sees a moron in flouro pink run through the stoppage. WTF?

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ryan2000 wrote:
kingkerna wrote:
Just saw footage of their runner actually going goal side of the pack just before the siren, that's a free isn't it?


Only if it was a Carlton Runner.
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The umpires would have paid them a free kick plus 2 x 50 metre penalties, (measured at 65 metres a piece :roll: ).

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:42 am 
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AGRO wrote:
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kingkerna wrote:
Just saw footage of their runner actually going goal side of the pack just before the siren, that's a free isn't it?


Only if it was a Carlton Runner.
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The umpires would have paid them a free kick plus 2 x 50 metre penalties, (measured at 65 metres a piece :roll: ).


But seriously, there is not a single thing we can do about it.

Menzels high tackle / That centre bounce / Waite's in the back / Yazz being held / and the runner in the dying minutes - they are some dumb dumb mistakes and it's a disgrace.

Just as it was last week in the dying minutes!

But what can we do? Nothing? If Mick says anything he'll be fined! The AFL wont do anything because the umpires are always right.

It pisses me off and it's been going on too long.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:47 am 
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FMD, we're awful @ the start of June with any wins. I reckon' only GWS in the last 3yrs including a couple of Geelong near misses, PTA thrashing, Essendon* near miss....Bali AFL viewing has not been kind.
Again, that's 2 games I've seen with the volume off & we seem to be reamed with the critical umpiring decisions. Not a basher but we've been royally screwed over. Centre bounce, Yazz, Menz & not sure about Waite's non goal to mention a few.
Jeffy does not like that pocket....seemingly something scares him down there. Unacceptable. Thought Waite was ordinary too (decent start) but there must have been some thought to sub him pre-game with White as the sub. Was Brock ordinary too? Started well but always chasing tail or out of position when it mattered?
Liking Docherty's & Thomas's attack on the ball & Everitt was good in close.. Army's run is much needed. Good work Gibbons, Cas & Yazz in patches. Menz is a goer.
Much better effort all round but devastated to lose - however gallant defeats will be no issue when it comes to the draft position we may end up with (not condoning any form of tanking as it's a disease) in what has turned out to a disappointing year (was the crowd piss poor tonight?).


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Not going to watch the game. I'll wait for Wookie's Carlton-only highlights and pretend we won.


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In 1968 we won the GF against Essendon*.
Geoff Blethyn was the Essendon* FF against Lofts.
If I recall ( and it was a long time ago) Lofts got two frees because Blethyn went too early and took marks or maybe missed them but got hands to the ball. Why? because when he jumped onto Big Wes's shoulders the ball was more than 5 yards away. Blethyn missed one or two kicks at goal.
Warwick Capper made a career of going early. Walkers non MOTY had more hang time than Blethyn's.

We won a flag on the back of those wrong decisions. Sometimes they go your way and sometimes they don't.

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Blue Sombrero wrote:
missnaut wrote:
The non goal review thing just shits me. @#$%&! the goal review off completely if it's only going to be used sometimes.

They can't review it if the FB plays on after the decision. It's a failing in the rules and they played on straight away. Those are the sorts of things that separate the good teams from the rest. The tricks and the discipline.



Could this have clarified the situation?


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-06/goal-line-camera-trial-begins

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:59 am 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
In 1968 we won the GF against Essendon**.
Geoff Blethyn was the Essendon** FF against Lofts.
If I recall ( and it was a long time ago) Lofts got two frees because Blethyn went too early and took marks or maybe missed them but got hands to the ball. Why? because when he jumped onto Big Wes's shoulders the ball was more than 5 yards away. Blethyn missed one or two kicks at goal.
Warwick Capper made a career of going early. Walkers non MOTY had more hang time than Blethyn's.

We won a flag on the back of those wrong decisions. Sometimes they go your way and sometimes they don't.


Umm, if you mark the ball you can go as early as you like. It's called positioning. Invalid rhetoric in the context with regards to Capper & Walker and free kicks (you'll need to confirm if they were marked or not by Blethyn as hands on the ball is not good enough).


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:26 am 
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Rexy wrote:
should've been a free against their runner


this site is running as slow as Brock



Absolutely. The most glaring non call if you ask me.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:33 am 
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I was at the end that Geelong kicked to in the 2nd and 4th quarters.

They got their goals easy ... we laboured for ours.

Our lack of composure under pressure is really telling. Very evident when we tried to get the ball out of defence. I cannot work out how MM when coaching Collingwood nearly always played on from an opposition behind ... we don't ... the best way to get a ball out of defence is to run it out.

We have to start weeding out players that are slow, lack skills and composure. We will never catch the likes of Geelong with these types.



Good post. We just don't have the mental toughness & composure to turn a lead into a win.

It was a good effort but we are still a long way off.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:35 am 
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We would ve won in Nick Graham played :razz:


Idiot! How did Mclean go? was great at that stoppage when selwood got the winning goal, didn't fumble much did he :roll:


Or what about Mclean's handball to Johnson which ended up with Horlin-Smith kicking the goal

He needs to go.


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BIRDTOWN wrote:
Blue Sombrero wrote:
In 1968 we won the GF against Essendon***.
Geoff Blethyn was the Essendon*** FF against Lofts.
If I recall ( and it was a long time ago) Lofts got two frees because Blethyn went too early and took marks or maybe missed them but got hands to the ball. Why? because when he jumped onto Big Wes's shoulders the ball was more than 5 yards away. Blethyn missed one or two kicks at goal.
Warwick Capper made a career of going early. Walkers non MOTY had more hang time than Blethyn's.

We won a flag on the back of those wrong decisions. Sometimes they go your way and sometimes they don't.


Umm, if you mark the ball you can go as early as you like. It's called positioning. Invalid rhetoric in the context with regards to Capper & Walker and free kicks (you'll need to confirm if they were marked or not by Blethyn as hands on the ball is not good enough).

I'm talking about 1968. Not now. That's the whole point. Umpires deciding what's right and what isn't at the time.
I haven't got time to watch the entire 1968 game just now but i will later just to check it out and let you know.
Essendon* supporters reckon they lost that game because of frees not paid. Nothing changes.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:05 am 
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McLean has lost the plot this year.
He looks slower.. Older.. Less skilled.
I wouldn't be surprised if there is something wrong with him.
Either way we should have tried to trade him last year.
The slow types don't cut it in today's game.

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Malthouse goes the umpires...

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/c ... zs0gf.html

And yes, he singles out all those incidents.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:00 am 
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McLean, Waite, Touhy and Garlett were ordinary last night

as Mick has stated you can't have too many passengers in your team

we rely on too few to win games and is simply not sustainable

the lack of support for Gibbs and Murphy was obvious last night as they both played great games

normally when your best players play well you win

unfortunately we don't have the depth within the 22

we need more midfielders and a good key forward

at least Menzel and Doherty look like good long term players who have some skill

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:06 am 
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Remember when the game was the game and coaches and players took the field not having to worry about which way a rule was going to be interpreted from one week to the next?

Remarkable how emphasis on rules is now a week to week proposition.


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