Two players from for our five national drafts making it will kill you won't it? One if which is Rowe

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too many FIGJAMS at this club from the board down who exist in a heavily guarded bubble of money and fantasy

14 minutes into the last, Goal by Zac, 16 points up. Game should have been over then. Hate to harp about this but I've counted 7 individual moments thereafter in which the umpires made crucial mistakes which ultimately gifted them the win. Not an excuse for losing, but after having fought back really well (yes, there were positives), our fate was taken from our hands.

People think we have a solid list
The facts are nothing coming through.
Two guys from the last five years drafts is what people are overlooking
You need talent pushing through all the time

Every year.
We get excited with menzel because there's nothing else.

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Because our points against are worse than in 2010 to 2012 makes malthouse the source of our poor performances
But no judd, kreuzer, walker, scotland or any kids to replace them, has little to do with it.
Could the forum nominate an unbiased member to compare our list to melbournes? I would like to see the result. And yes roos>mm>ratten but roos didnt want carlton

Doesn't help.

You think about the benefits from good recruiting compared with going to Arizona - there is no comparison.

How much does the trip cost? Or is it one of these things which are bankrolled by some board members?

You would think they would have the brains to work out that good recruitment provides greater benefit than a pre season trip to Arizona.

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That's about it.

It's funny reading about playing the kids seeing as though we don't have any that are any good.

We'll rush Judd in next week instead

Roos didnt want Carlton cause he knew our list was very ordinary and there was nothing coming through.

Ffs its not like we dont spend on recruiting. Its the quality of the recruiters. Connecting money spent on arizona to our inability to recruit is illogical

We win games and Mick and Daisy are the difference.

We lose games, even to the bottom sides, and it's the lists fault.

Free passes should not be issued to anyone including Buttifant.

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The point is MM has done nothing remarkable to warrant a contract extension has he?

Therefore the club could make big savings after the 2015 season and subsequently put those savings into recruiting and development coaches.

We all bemoan the recruiting and development yet some seem unfazed with the money being pissed up against the wall on the Arizona trip and that MM would be on good coin compared to many coaches.

122 points against to 82 in a season for Melbourne; yet things have got worse under Malthouse.

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It's a poor use on funds - if you are going to be a club that spends "big" then spend it on the recruiters not the coaches.

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Love Henderson but taking the cushy pushy (ayeah) approach the past few weeks

I agree.

At this point I'd be happy to sack the lot and give Emma Quayle the gig for $250k a year (far more than she'll ever get from Fairfax) and ask her to just do what she does now but for us.

It's got to be an improvement both financially and from a recruitment perspective.

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stats are whatevef you want them to mean. Malthouse with no players and has not let carlton average 122 points against like melbourne did before they were able to get experience into their 4 years of high draft picks.

Typical; dismissing the stats because they show your man MM has had very little impact.

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Malthouse has only had a little over 30 games with a bunch of prima donnas who spend more time thinking about their next haircut than their next tackle.

What did people seriously expect?

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not rhe point

go through the last ten seasons and look for our first three rounds of draftees.
most teams have abackbone from that...

what youre saying is ridiculous again... you can do both... like collingwood have for ten years...
have players coming through and go to arizona....
ok they missed this year.... but its not how they have been going about things

unless of curse youre saying our list is great but were let down by the arizona trip...

we have nothing coming through.....

rowe.... limited
and menzel no tank.... cant play him full games really...

so who can come in???

and who do we have from the last FIVE NATIONAL DRAFTS???

go back even further....

you cannot expect to have a good list with that kind of thing to lean on

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Waite is a liability.
On a positive note, Casboult is finding his feet.

Generally speaking, we look terrible when we play slow, possession heavy footy.
We just don't have the skill to pull it off. We get cut open every time.

The umpiring was horrible.

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They coud'nt.....could they?

Don't give a shit.

If we come out and beat Geelong and Hawthorn, no-one remembers this game, let alone the Melbourne one.

We won't though. The bigger picture is already clear, that can be dealt with at the end of the year. Cue autopilot.

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