yeah cos everyone was slipping to us.. did anyone wonder that noone was slipping they were just passed on???

That's right, we were selecting certain all Australian U/18s but many of us didn't realise that sometimes the same logic applies as to why drafting Morrish Medal winners is not always a good idea. There's much more to than simply drafting players with junior accolades, especially when you give away so many picks in the meat of the draft.

You only have to read the rundown post draft each year to get a hint of how underwhelming we've done. That might sound superficial but you get the hint that Carlton have never really 'rebuilt' at all. We've simply topped up but with a few more kids than we used to.

Carlton virtually admitted one year that it was seeking players in the draft that the other clubs didn't want. They described it as drafting players that might slip when other teams were seeking certain 'types'. Now I maintain that if they were good enough, they probably wouldn't get through regardless. It sounds more like we were seeking scraps because we are cheap and scared of doing the hard work. We've probably treated most drafts the same way.

How much coin would a Wells or Hine be in? Only asking because I have no idea though I reckon I'd get pretty close on all senior coaches....

2012 Menzel
Temay
Graham

2011 – Bootsma ?
Rowe ?
Buckley (F/S)

2010 National Draft
Pick 18: Matthew Watson, Calder Cannons ? G
Pick 34: Patrick McCarthy*, Glenelg ?
Pick 42: Luke Mitchell*, Calder Cannons ?
Pick 67: Andrew McInnes*, Dandenong Stingrays
Pick 70: Nick Duigan, Norwood ? G
Pick 85: Jeffery Garlett, Promoted Rookie
Pick 99: David Ellard, Promoted Rookie G
Pick 108: Simon White, Promoted Rookie

2009 National Draft

Pick 12: Kane Lucas, East Fremantle ?
Pick 43: Marcus Davies, North Hobart ? G
Pick 59: Rohan Kerr*, Dandenong Stingrays
Pick 72: Sam Jacobs, Promoted Rookie
Pick 85: Aaron Joseph, Promoted Rookie ? G

2008 National Draft

Pick 6: Chris Yarran, Swan Districts
Pick 40: Mitch Robinson, Tassie Devils ?
Pick 65: Rhys O'Keeffe, North Adelaide G
Pick 80: Caleb Tiller*, Murray Bushrangers
Pick 85: Pass

2007 National Draft

Pick 1 - Priority Selection : Matthew Kreuzer, Northern Knights U18
Pick 36 : Steven Browne, West Perth, WA
Pick 46 : Dennis Armfield, Swan Districts, WA
Pick 65 : Not utilised

2006 National Draft

Pick 1 : Bryce Gibbs, Glenelg, SANFL
Pick 17 - Priority Selection: Shaun Hampson, Mt Gravatt, Queensland ?
Pick 19 : Shaun Grigg, North Ballarat
Pick 35 : Mark Austin, Glenelg, SANFL
Pick 51 : Clinton Benjamin*, Claremont, WA
Pick 67 : Joe Anderson, Darwin, NT
Pick 81 : Not utilised

2005 National Draft

Pick 1 - Priority Selection: Marc Murphy, Oakleigh Chargers U18
Pick 4 : Josh Kennedy, East Fremantle, WAFL
Pick 20 : Paul Bower, Peel Thunder, WAFL
Pick 36 : Jake Edwards, Western Jets U18

2004 National Draft
Pick 9 : Jordan Russell, West Adelaide, SANFL
Pick 25 : Adam Hartlett, West Adelaide, SANFL
Pick 41 : Luke Blackwell, Swan Districts, WAFL - (Father/Son selection)
Pick 73 : Chris Bryan, Frankston, VFL
Pick 77 : Anthony Raso*, Dandenong Stingrays

Underlined = Delisted or Traded
? + Questionable decisions
G + Gone (most likely)

Check out how many years have been absolute wipe outs.
Absolutely disgraceful performance by WH ove a long period of time/
Surely he, and even Shane Rogers wont survive beyond this year.

That was the talls draft
Watson
McArthy
Mitchell.

Our 150th is shaping as a laugh for the rest of the comp. Just like our last year at PP.

im not sure... but we just bought 5,000 memberships or thereabouts to make the clubs membership look good for the board....

i know what i would be doing....

oh and debolfo is a resident historian around the club paid and kept by the pratts....

The reason I ask is if say they're on 300k a year doubling it to 600k doesn't seem too extravagant "to get the best".

Love how KB asked Bruce

KB: do you think it was the right decision to sack Ratten and replace him with Mick
BRUCE: absolutely 100%

Those still banging on about sacking Ratten clearly don't know much of what took place last year. Brett Ratten was a poor manager, lacked people skills, lacked leadership, lacked man management and he had almost 80% of the people at Visy Park offside.

He made no effort to get to know his players and play a role that's just more than just a footy coach was pathetic.

The way he spoke to non football related staff was appalling.

The fact that he couldn't work out that his methods and looooong hours of teaching off a projectors screen wasn't sinking in was damning.

He had lost the players well before that. To hear players mocking the coach and taking the piss out of him right behind his back shows just the total lack of respect they had for him.

Which other president would have to walk into the change rooms and deliver a motivation speech to try get the boys to find some passion within........ I can't think of any

Love how KB asked Bruce

KB: do you think it was the right decision to sack Ratten and replace him with Mick
BRUCE: absolutely 100%

Those still banging on about sacking Ratten clearly don't know much of what took place last year. Brett Ratten was a poor manager, lacked people skills, lacked leadership, lacked man management and he had almost 80% of the people at Visy Park offside.

He made no effort to get to know his players and play a role that's just more than just a footy coach was pathetic.

The way he spoke to non football related staff was appalling.

The fact that he couldn't work out that his methods and looooong hours of teaching off a projectors screen wasn't sinking in was damning.

He had lost the players well before that. To hear players mocking the coach and taking the piss out of him right behind his back shows just the total lack of respect they had for him.

Which other president would have to walk into the change rooms and deliver a motivation speech to try get the boys to find some passion within........ I can't think of any