I believe we are on the right path.

MM had virtually no influence during FA/Trade/Draft period last year as our list was hamstrung due to player contracts etc.

This FA/Trade/draft period will be different. All season he has said that he is reviewing the list to see who fits/who doesnt and that its all about the 'process'. Changes are coming IMO. Not all will be happy but we will improve.

Fahoor and Sawyers are on the Board and chances are one (probably Fahoor) will take over the reigns from Sticks.

Culturally things are changing for the better and this will continue with new ideas, new philosophies, new people etc.

Year one was always going to be about development under a new coaching regime and starting to address some off field matters. We'll see further changes in year two.

More change and improvement is needed no doubt - but we are heading in the right direction.

I must say seeing Mick in the navy blue last October just looked odd. Thats no longer the case for me. I now see him as navy blue and one of us.

The only reason opposition supporters are potting us at present is that they see the positive changes MM is making. As fans we are sometimes a little too one-eyed to notice them but they are there.

The tide will turn. We will slip into the top 8 (my prediction is 7th or 8th) and probably face either a Richmond or a Collingwood or a Essendon* in an elimination final. Will be HUGE! Get past the first week and we'll worry a few teams....

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I don't think we are any chance to make finals unless we win both of our next two and that's unlikely.

The Saints loss will be the one that killed us.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

It's about time we made some noise. We've been quiet and good boys for far too long. Why has our membership fallen way behind the other big Melbourne clubs. We don't really promote ourselves in the public arena. Ever since the salary cap issues early this century we've walked around with our tail between our legs. This is why certain clubs are able to bully us on and off the field. I am not saying I agree with sooking about the umpires not giving us a fair go. At least Mick's come out and said this is not good enough. Better than Sticks saying we're Carlton and F?%k the rest. That worked.

MM comes across as a fairly nasty guy, with a big and fragile ego, but he is a very good coach. After paying out about $1m to get rid of Ratts and assistants and then another $1m for MM and whatever it cost to get Wiley, you'd expect us to get a good coach. How good a coach is yet to be seen. There are a number of good coaches going around. Our committee stated that we needed to get a coach who could win us a flag while Juddy was still near his top. They clearly expect a flag in three years, it took him 16 years between his 2nd and 3rd flag. We look sharper, tougher and better strategically but we are still going to struggle to even make the 8. We will pay for poor management in appointments and recruiting over the last 10 years for a long time. Mick is better than Ratts. But 8 of the last 9 flags have gone to coaches who are in their first senior job (and it is very likely that will happen again this year). Not sure of the success rate of coaches at their 4th club.

We are mediocre and we need change at the top. We need Sticks to go, he has been a great player, a loyal servant and a poor committeeman/president. We don't need high fliers or more unelected relatives of rich people, we need smart diverse successful people who love the club and understand football. Every player in the AFL comes form the draft, a good start would be to try and be the best at drafting and developing -sees really obvious but we have not led the field at recruiting since the AFL turned off the zoning tap at Bendigo. We have appointed an expensive coach at his 4th club because 6 years ago we couldn't be bothered looking hard enough to get a good young long-term coach - the guys who have been coaching all the premiership sides recently. We haven't drafted well enough so we will go and spend up big on over priced free agents. We will come up short, struggle to keep our own players and remain a mediocrity. I saw the Blues win 8 flags before i was 40. Someone turning 40 this year will be lucky to have seen them win one. The wasted opportunities of the latter Elliott years and since just infuriate me, and to see Essendon* gliding past us with a strong developing list chosen with worse picks than we've had infuriates me more.

I won't surprise me in the least if the next big move from the super duper coach is to appoint Mark Neeld as an assistant. Oh Yea ...

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

You need to re read the quoted sentence in its context. I wasnt talking at all about trading or delisting Davies and joseph. It had nothing to do with the conversation.
I was talking about trading contracted players which is normal in AFL.

So what about those marginalized important players BBW.

Haven't heard who they are?

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I hope Essendon* folds.

I've only seen one.

Now that Carlton can't go the cheque book things are much harder - you have to get so many things right.

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Ratten would be a good assistant.

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BigBlueWave aka Ratts, are you applying for the Melbourne position?

Haha.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

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!@#$ if that was the criteria.

Oh ... ok ... I thought you might want to dispute where we are given that we have a stronger and less injured playing list this year.

I don't think much of Duigan as a player so I am not talking about him. Laidler on the other hand was our best defender 1.5 years ago. I don't accept the crap about being versatile ... there are currently players in the team that are not judged on that criteria. The guy just hasn't been given a chance ... yet he continues to select blokes like Bootsma in big games against strong opponents. DOH!

Then the super duper coach selects Yarran as a sub in a big game we had to win ... Yarran's response was poor ... but he should never have been sub. Have a look at the players MM selected ahead of Yarran. Ultimately this extremely poor decision probably cost us 2 games ... and behind the scenes from what I hear ... I wouldn't be surprised if Yarran is looking for a new club.

Did you want to discuss anything else?

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

You forgot the three ruckmen rule no one mentioned for the saints game.

Yep, it was a good post but a very sobering one. Those that still think we a 'great club' are kidding themselves.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Stick to ya guns!

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dane's trolling again

I think you'd find most of the really good senior coaches have pretty big egos. Comes with the territory, I'd imagine. You'd have to some kind of fanatical nutcase to do a job like that. In fact, I suspect most of the best players have massive egos as well.

So, basically Laidler.

I liked Laidler as a player. Thought he made our backline a bit more organized.

But can you tell me if he's the same player after his serious knee op?

The facts are you don't know why he can't get a run so you put it down to a coaching error.

So, out of 44 players we have one guy who's not up to it, another guy who we are not sure is up to it and a third guy who we know is up to it but has been spelled for disciplinary issues.

That's your case?

BBW, you need to make your statements more reasonable or people won't take you seriously.

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I hope Essendon* folds.