Nonsense.
When did Juddy last walk into a pub and belt someone......or Carrots?
It has nothing to do with players socialising, its about people having self control and social responsibility. Scotland is a fool and a repeat offender.

Also your point about it having nothing to do with the AFL is interesting. It was Scotlands defence team that introduced a probable AFL penalty into the equation.
He received a lighter penalty because apparently Carlton were going to give him several weeks.

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This. He got off because he's an AFL player. Everyone knows it.
Repeat offender.
Perfect opportunity for the club to set an example and signal to the playing group.
Muck up and you get punished, no matter who you are.
We have always been loathe to punish our players properly. NAB suspension???
Culture starts at the top.

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Can't help thinking the reason he finished up in court in the first place, was that he IS an AFL player.

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The others charged weren't AFL players. And they had convictions recorded, unlike our boy.

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He needs something to wake him up. If he escaped penalty from the courts, we must act otherwise he will maybe think he can just do whatever he like, though at 32 one would think he is old enough to realise belting someone like he did could be fatal.

.... get the picture ....

You guys seriously need to eat a concrete sandwich. If you're the kind of softcock who sooks it when your brother is getting insulted, then don't go out to pubs with him at two in the morning. Stay at home with your box of tissues.

Fairdinkum, this mythology of being tough cos you have fights in pubs is weird.

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First we had the apologists for Fevola, now we have the apologists for Scotland.

Next it will be the apologists for Robinson...or McLean...or the 18 year old kid we're about to draft...

Time for the Club to step up and set a standard of uncompromising professionalism on and off the field.

Interesting article in today's The Age about leadership and culture at Collingwood. They reckon in order to win a flag, they need to get better at both. And they are miles ahead of us already.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/m ... 27iiu.html

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What's your beef with Robinson?

iirc, Lance Franklin was punched at a bar a few years ago... instead of retaliating, he walked out with his gf and told the club of what just occurred. Is he a wuss or an AFL footballer aware of his public stature?

Heath walks up to a guy and king hits him because he may have said something mean to or about his brother. In the process he tarnished himself but more importantly to me, the brand that is the Carlton football club, again. For that reason alone, the club must come down on him hard... not to mention the 'culture' message they'll be sending out to the playing group.

I fear the only wuss in this whole episode will be the CFC

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No beef with Robinson. Was trying to pick random examples, although Robinson does have some form.

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No he doesn't. There was a rumour of a scuffle three years ago with no punches thrown. No police charges, no drunken debacles, no fights, no drug taking. He's a model citizen.

I stand corrected then. The point was, if you suspend Scotland, make him realise how he's let everyone down through stupid behaviour, penalise him in missed match payments, then he is less likely to stuff up again, and other players, whoever they are, get a clear sign of the consequences of them stuffing up. Whether it's Robinson, McLean, new draftee, Simpson, Laidler, Bell, whoever.

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Agree.

I couldn't care less what other Clubs do or do not do and do not see their penalties as relevant.

Scotland is a leader of the club and has brought his name and the Club's name down with a cowardly act. I'd give him 4 weeks as a club penalty.

A penalty might not "mean dick to Scotland", but it will hopefully send a message to the rest of the list and set a standard

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Double edged sword.

Heath deserves a decent punishment to send the message to the group that this sort of stuff won't be tolerated. 2-3 weeks should be sufficient.

On the other hand, I'm a big believer in the 'talk shit, get hit' ethos as well. I don't talk shit to any randoms out in clubs so I don't get involved in fights. I don't look for them and will more often than not walk away from potential volatile situations ie. rowdy, mouthy drunks who could be a problem later.

I've hung out with Heath on a few occassions while we've both been VERY drunk. I've found him to be a top bloke and in control...a 'happy drunk' if you will. Anyone who doesn't go in to bat for their family is a bit weird in my book, it's almost instinct. We'll never know the full details but this guy sounds like an absolute [REDACTED] and probably got what he deserved - maybe a little more but you grab the bull, you get the horns.

Would it have been an issue had Heath not returned for Round 2? Unsure. He does have form though and the Club need to make an example. Like lots of rules though, we may not necessarily agree with them when not looking strictly black/white, but we uphold them anyways. 2-3 weeks for mine, regular season.

So has there been a change in leadership and culture in the space of 2 years or was it a long injury list that prevented Collingwood from winning the flag this year?
As for Scotland, he has priors and this is very disappointing and really the last thing the club needs right now even though it did occur a while ago.
Someone may be able to find an article when Scotland's last incident happened, i am pretty sure Kernahan mentioned something along the lines of him being on his last chance.
Will be so glad to see the end of 2012.

Heath will be saving kittens from burning buildings.

I'm not saying Heath shouldn't cop a whack. The court imposed a 2 year good behaviour bond, community service, and a fine (?).
Carlton will fine him 5 Large, and suspend him. I think that's sufficient.

Let me ask those baying for blood, who among you has gone through life without ever punching another person ?

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