Doesn't BR mean the lay of the land

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Cheats never prosper (except in the AFL)

Ratts your coaching career is on the line
give us something
Say something like "some of the decisions tonight were horrible, its like playing against 25 blokes when you come to Patterson's". "That 50 was a joke, Margetts should be dropped"

dont worry, sticks or Jeanne will pay your fine

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i AM CARLTON

We certainly won't win them with this coach. Can't beleive anyone wants him to stay. Any coach worth his salt has them having a crack from the first bounce, not the 3rd Q. This group of players is finished as an AFL force unless they get a new coach - hopefully Mick - by season's end.

You mean call Eddie's bluff?

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

losing your feet is a talent based thing and very hard to rectify - recall S Fisher from a few years back ?

Bloke is and always has been a hack, save for his brief stint as our hard nosed tagger.

joseph is not to blame! everytime we lose people! the bloke trys his guts out every week! he played better than judd tonight!!!!!!!! .Great effort tonight blues! im very proud! we almost won with half a side! UMPS COST US!!!!!!!! GO THE MIGHTY BLUEBOYS.

Just back from the game.

Absolutely gutted. Our first half was terrible. Kick ins, forward structure, stoppage and clearance work very sub standard. We were hanging on for dear life make no mistake.

Third quarter was great. Last quarter we turned shithouse again.

Being at the game, it highlighted just how poor our stoppage and clearance work is. They absolutely smashed us. Streamed away time after time after time and spread brilliantly. Our defensive transition is non existent.

Cant be proactive when the ball heads straight to you defense from centre bounces. Always on the back foot.

They are so clean in tight while we fumble and bumble all the time. Never seen Judd fumble so much as he has in the past month or so. McLean either handballs to someone directly under pressure or to someone's feet.

Im flower sick of losing and I can't bare that we are in the midst of wasting a year that is wide open.

Only won 3 of our last 9 games. Terribly damning for all concerned. Unacceptable and IMHO cannot be mitigated.

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We are on our way back...

I don't blame him for losing.

In the '93 GF we all blamed Athorn and Powell.

But the truth is, they beat the whole team, not just a couple of weak links.

'93 was lost when Williams was beaten (almost to death) by Denham.

Good teams cover their deficiencies, but more importantly, maximize their strengths. In '93 we had better on ballers and better KPP and yet we let the GF slip because we left it to Williams.

ATM we are leaving it to Judd and when he's beaten so are we.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

At least you win points for spelling 'than' right.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

I am still shaking from that kick infield from the boundary early in the last to a bloke under enormous pressure. We were in front at the time, up and under, bloke had to sit under it in pouring rain, WCE spoil, ball squirts out to somebody unmarked, goal. That was the last time we lead. Apalling decision or poor execution it doesnt matter, not good enough AJ, we must have somebody else that can make better decisions.

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"Who discovered we could get milk from cows, and what did he think he was doing at the time?" Billy Connolly

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Thought Warnock was great last week against Geelong but gee he struggled tonight against better opposition. And Mclean started pretty well but faded in the second half.

Have liked Duigan's last 2 games.

Carrazzo looked tentative early but ended up putting in a beauty.

Weird game. To be honest West Coast didn't look like they had to go into top gear to hold us off. We pretty much fell to pieces for a 5 min period in the last when the game was up for grabs.

Judd will work through whatever it is that's holding him back. Stephen Kernahan had a massive slump in 1991 & just chipped away & got back to the top of his game for 4 seasons. It's going to be a shit 2 weeks supporter wise but the bye couldn't come quick enough for the club.

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#DonTheStash

what about judd! gives away 50!. drops a sitter over his head! scored 56 supercoach points! selwood 157 supercoach who played on him! poor judd needs a month rest!

Simple fact, umpires never cost you a game, players do.

Skill errors, undiscipled acts and lack of effort is why we lost

Work is left to too few.

Joseph is a coach killer. period....

I have made my views known to a board member, Rattens excuses are not good enough.,

Blame needs to be put on players, he needs to name them. He needs to publically tell off Judd and Jamison for lack of leadership.

He needs to set the tone for our club. We are a ruthless mob and these sort of performances are not acceptable.

Kernahan needs to make this clear in private and public. If he cant then other will make it happen.

It is time for action not excuses, that is the domain of hack clubs.

1. Richmond - 30 years of 5 year plans
2. Bulldogs - Prelims didnt go our way
3. Cats - Hand baggers until 2006, work left too few
4. Sk. Kilda - Until Ross Lyon arrived
5. Melbourne - Since 1965

Carlton needs to become tough and ruthless again. Start now.

In the last quarter, why didn't Joseph just kick the ball long up the line instead of riskily centreing it to Jamison and costing us a goal? Jamison should have been awarded the free for having his arms chopped, but what was Joseph thinking? If he had gone long up the line, even if the kick had gone straight to one of their players, at least the ball would have been in our forward line, giving us time to set up defensively.. Even a kick out on the full would have been much better in the circumstances. These are the basics of football and it puzzles me that, even allowing for the pressure of the game, such a fundamental mistake can be made, particularly by someone who should know better.

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Formerly Blues-Back2003.

Too many poorly drilled players.
Not Josephs fault.. he was ok.. except a few mistakes.
Everybody makes those.
You cant be serious if you think players wont make mistakes

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Just checked in and I have to say, even though it seems a bit of a cop out but the umpiring was exceptionally one directional. Far too many incidents to single any out.
If the umps are putting the whistle away then they are putting it away for the game. Don't pull it out for the home side. Shithouse umpiring.

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We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion.

Yes, agree, I suspect that Ratten and his assistants know this.

Club is carrying too many unfit players into game e.g Jamison, Kruezer, Warnock and Yarren.

Then on flip side we have to play too many ordinary (list cloggers) like Joseph.

Chance needs to be given to Lucas.

If club is fair dinkum come end of year hacks need to go.

Like the year we let 12 players go, remember McGrath played entire season and then was told to go.

Too many coach killing acts means you go.

For a insight into how clubs work, read article from Darren Jolly that was in the Age.

I suspect our club has a number of FIGJAMs and players who dont work hard enough.

Judd will retire, the work needs to be picked up by other.

One thing that I really liked tonight was Watson, needs to deliver that performance every week for next 10 years. Well done.

I'd be surprised if Judd still gives a shit about this at the moment.

Has always been one to see football for what it is.....wonder what the impact of a first born and a broadened view toward to his interests and ventures post-football career has on that perspective.

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

The kick to Jammo is part of the drill and it had been working, its what got us back in the game.

Unfortunately either Jammo didn't get enough separation from his player or Josephs kick was too high.

That was a skill error, not a tactic error.

Not that it matters ultimately.

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I hope Essendon* folds.