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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:49 am 
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This is turning into a Simpsons episode.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:59 am 
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On form we'll be looking at another 10 goal loss which is depressing when you consider Geelong's season so far.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:15 am 
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Im a fan of Ratten but why has he decided to coach from the box the last month or so is it too cold??? are the players losing direction with out him in the thick of it??
Also playing Bower up foward baffles me he is a defender a qucik one that can spoil with both hands that trys his guts out !!!
Id love to see Bower only kick on his left when he has to!
i know players need to be able to play other postions but we are missing laidler,henderson,dyg's thornton IMO This not the time we need to put a defender up foward from the start.
our Foward line is still pretty intact no need to throw a guy who hasnt trained with them to the same extent deep forward.

Injuries arnt an excuse but were we are at in development behind the teams that have been top four for the last few years missing 8 out of our top 22 seem to be harder to cover
its goes to show we are still a bit behind the teams like cwood ,hawks our players 14-18 simply arnt as good.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:28 am 
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Do we even have enough players available for selection to field a full team this week? :?:

Blueboy74 wrote:
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All our depth is injured.


Didn't you state in another post that there are about 5 players in the side that should never play for the club again?

Isn't that therefore part of the problem?


Our depth is both - either injured or just no good.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:33 am 
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so we're back to underdog status - our comfort zone

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:48 am 
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Thread bare at the minute.

Senior players who didn't play on the weekend:
Thornton
Waite
Carrazzo
Murphy
Russell
Kreuzer
Henderson
Duigan
Laidler
Davies
White
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Casboult
Rowe

Rookies who didn't play on the weekend:
Dale (emergency)

New injury:
Scotland (3 weeks)

Available for selection (RiverRodent's assessments of each last game)
McInnes - okay without setting the world on fire
McCarthy - unimpressive
O'Keeffe - good until he ran out of gas and will likely be another depth player when (or if) fully fit
Buckley - will be a player but couldn't get near it today
Mitchell - has big body and seems to have a football brain but rarely looked like taking a mark and his defensive efforts on the forward line make Whitnall look good
Lucas - a non-factor with no impact
Kerr - seems to have gone backwards and gave very little

Others who played (not elevated):
Bell
Bray
Carter

The cupboard is slim pickings!


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:24 pm 
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Too many mentioning injuries.

Geelong have injuries.
Collingwood have injuries.
West Coast have injuries.

Please can anyone tell me who played on the weekend apart from Bootsma and Watson that isn't considered to have senior experience in the last two three years.
Who have we really brought into the team that hasn't been there before so we can say we had a young inexperienced team that will be good for the learning experience and will take this club forward in the future.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:40 pm 
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for starters, play a 3rd man up at stoppages and smash the ball into space


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:55 pm 
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Geelong will have an injury free list in 2 weeks and have had an injury free list for best part of year so far. They had structure in spite their injuries

Collingwood get most their players back this week and will have 4 key players out injured.. they still have structure with injuries.

West Coast have 5 key players out injured and have been impressive but these injuries could now take their toll, time will tell if the game against the Lions was an abberation or not Even with injuries they still have structure.

Carlton have 7 key players out...what hurts most, our tall forwards have been injured ..we havent had a forward structure since Waite has been injured. All our back up tall forwards..Casaoult, Mitchell, Rowe have also been injured. Little bit different Collingwood's mids can look up and see Cloke, Dawes and Goldsack to provide a contest..West Coast have Lynch, Darling and resting ruckman to provide a contest...since Waite has gone down we have had no hope. Excuses my butt..an average structured team like Port will smash an unstructured team like Carlton.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:00 pm 
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We're hoping players who didn't play either grade on the weekend will come in for us. Kreuzer? Henderson? Perhaps Thornton, Duigan or Russell. Murphy is gone for the season. I reckon Waite is too. Carrazzo and Laidler are many weeks away.

The other players available don't make for a pretty bunch at all.

Scotland out. Dale or Lucas in.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:05 pm 
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Throw Mitchell in..why not..he may get smashed or it may inspire him..I'll take that chance right about now.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:09 pm 
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j.scarponi wrote:
Geelong will have an injury free list in 2 weeks and have had an injury free list for best part of year so far. They had structure in spite their injuries

Collingwood get most their players back this week and will have 4 key players out injured.. they still have structure with injuries.

West Coast have 5 key players out injured and have been impressive but these injuries could now take their toll, time will tell if the game against the Lions was an abberation or not Even with injuries they still have structure.

Carlton have 7 key players out...what hurts most, our tall forwards have been injured ..we havent had a forward structure since Waite has been injured. All our back up tall forwards..Casaoult, Mitchell, Rowe have also been injured. Little bit different Collingwood's mids can look up and see Cloke, Dawes and Goldsack to provide a contest..West Coast have Lynch, Darling and resting ruckman to provide a contest...since Waite has gone down we have had no hope. Excuses my butt..an average structured team like Port will smash an unstructured team like Carlton.


They lose by a few points, we get pumped and are out of the games halfway through the second quarter.

Nope, you need something else.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:16 pm 
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go back and look at our lack of structure before those players were injured

our F50 and the entries were still a mess

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:22 pm 
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j.scarponi wrote:
Throw Mitchell in..why not..he may get smashed or it may inspire him..I'll take that chance right about now.



Where would you play him :?:

Can't play him CHF, Betts owns that position

Maybe HBF :?:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:23 pm 
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defensive forward - tag scarlett

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:28 pm 
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Improvement mostly has to come from within.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:53 pm 
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verbs wrote:
Thread bare at the minute.

Senior players who didn't play on the weekend:
Thornton
Waite
Carrazzo
Murphy
Russell
Kreuzer
Henderson
Duigan
Laidler
Davies
White
-----
Casboult
Rowe

Rookies who didn't play on the weekend:
Dale (emergency)

New injury:
Scotland (3 weeks)

Available for selection (RiverRodent's assessments of each last game)
McInnes - okay without setting the world on fire
McCarthy - unimpressive
O'Keeffe - good until he ran out of gas and will likely be another depth player when (or if) fully fit
Buckley - will be a player but couldn't get near it today
Mitchell - has big body and seems to have a football brain but rarely looked like taking a mark and his defensive efforts on the forward line make Whitnall look good
Lucas - a non-factor with no impact
Kerr - seems to have gone backwards and gave very little

Others who played (not elevated):
Bell
Bray
Carter

The cupboard is slim pickings!


the Tumbleweeds are blowing through the CFC.......in all areas


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:54 pm 
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j.scarponi wrote:
Geelong will have an injury free list in 2 weeks and have had an injury free list for best part of year so far. They had structure in spite their injuries

Collingwood get most their players back this week and will have 4 key players out injured.. they still have structure with injuries.

West Coast have 5 key players out injured and have been impressive but these injuries could now take their toll, time will tell if the game against the Lions was an abberation or not Even with injuries they still have structure.

Carlton have 7 key players out...what hurts most, our tall forwards have been injured ..we havent had a forward structure since Waite has been injured. All our back up tall forwards..Casaoult, Mitchell, Rowe have also been injured. Little bit different Collingwood's mids can look up and see Cloke, Dawes and Goldsack to provide a contest..West Coast have Lynch, Darling and resting ruckman to provide a contest...since Waite has gone down we have had no hope. Excuses my butt..an average structured team like Port will smash an unstructured team like Carlton.


Structure, what structure are you talking about.
I too like Waite unlike some others but how can you rely on just one player.
You need players to come in and take over the position of the injured player.
We haven't got any.
You mention bit players to make an argument.
Our depth is non existant. We have players that have potential but are also unproven, injured or under developed.
Our coach's think everything will be played under our terms, and that's it.
No plan B. There's your structure and foresight.
Too many premadonna's in their comfort zone.
Our midfield depth revolves around two players.
Yes we are out of form but that happens when you play like girls.

Now can you answer my question.

Who have we really brought into the team that hasn't been there before so we can say we had a young inexperienced team that will be good for the learning experience and will take this club forward in the future.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:55 pm 
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chubbyruss wrote:
j.scarponi wrote:
Throw Mitchell in..why not..he may get smashed or it may inspire him..I'll take that chance right about now.



Where would you play him :?:

Can't play him CHF, Betts owns that position

Maybe HBF :?:


:-)


Personally I'd look at Squid after the bye. Let him play a couple more in the reserves to build up confidence.

Dale better play though.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:57 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Blueboy74 wrote:
j.scarponi wrote:
All our depth is injured.


Didn't you state in another post that there are about 5 players in the side that should never play for the club again?

Isn't that therefore part of the problem?

And that he is loyal... he said that....

and he thinks 5 guys should never play footy for the club again...




Did the Spartans say we are following the Athenian/Geelong Model??? :razz:

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