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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:51 am 
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Didn't see the game, so many thanks to The Wookie !! Exceptional work mate. :thanks: :clap:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:24 am 
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The Judd holding the ball decision late in the second quarter is one of the greatest travesties of the night - Judd takes possession of the ball with one free arm (as Crowley already ga possession of Judd's other arm :roll: ) - then Judd gets pinged because he manages to break clear of the illegal tackle.

Seriously where is the so called protection for the ball player Gieschen???? :roll:


HTB has long been a disgrace. I dont understand why there's such a move to 'reward the tackler' and it frustrates me when guys are pinged for time in a tackle. If you still have your arms free and are able to dispose of the ball it should be irrelevant how long you're in a tackle and as someone mentioned, Judd should have just crumbled in the first tackle.

Umpire also pinged one of our players, I think Hampson, but could be wrong, for a '360' tackle. He specifically mention '360 revolution'. First time I've heard this officially, thought it was just a commentator and opposition supporter thing. Since when has it been a rule.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:25 am 
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few idiots like above in the matchday thread too by the looks of it


I gave up on the match discussion thread at quarter time.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:49 am 
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Judd finished the match with just 17 disposals on a frustrating night.

But Gold Coast captain Gary Ablett was critical of Crowley's tagging tactics.

"Crowley is a joke!" Ablett tweeted after the opening term.

"Play the ball, not the man! That's why (Cameron) Lingy was such a great player he ran both ways!"

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/b ... z1tHPYIW74


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:54 am 
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Improved intensity from last week and the ability to adapt to a congested and defensive game plan I think shows that we adapted from last week's less than impressive match. We need to expect more of that and learn to adapt.

I thought Curnow early and betts in the third complimented solid games from Henderson, Gibbs and Simmo in the second half. Special mention to Walker whose pace and hands were exceptional for first game back. Good defensive effort from Joseph on the weasel Ballentyne. Good overall team win

Any concern about losing the clearances again?

Looked tired in the last 10 minutes (and to freeo credit they held their forward structures better than in the third which was critical) but 4 points is just that and in 3 weeks time we won't remember or care how we won...


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:39 am 
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A funny game in the end, and both teams had strong cases for winning it. But what we did was take our chances and win the game when it was there to be won. Freo had us on the ropes and wasted their chances, and when they started taking them it was too late.

So overall, happy to take 4 points from Perth, especially with an easier match against GWS coming up (you idiot Robbo :lol: ), a chance for a few boys to rest and for others to come in and make an impression.

BTW, Judd is apparently an umpire's pet, we have three #1 draft picks (see our first goal) and I can't fathom why I thought we should've gone for Jack Anthony :oops:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:47 am 
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Home crowd umpiring and I'm glad Ross' gameplan did not eventuate in a win. That sort of rubbish should be banned.

Interesting that nobody gave Fyfe's shoulder a decent test?

Or maybe we are above Sam Lonergan tactics.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:57 am 
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I for one don't mind the guys taking the foot off the pedal in the last quarter, they needed to rest up and save their energy for the incredibly testing match against our traditional rivals next week.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:57 am 
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Rapt with the win but our accuracy has wallpapered over some serious issues for the coaches to address.
For the second consecutive week, we only scored from about 30% of our forward 50 entries while conceding more than 50% at the other end.
It shows we're not dealing with the opposition putting players defensive side of the ball and what's more, we're getting far less value out of our loose player. Yes Gibbs has been very good but winning games of footy is about kicking more goals than the opposition. Let's be realistic. Had Freo not kicked so poorly in front of goal, we would be lamenting another poor result.

I'm not trying to put a downer on the win. Any win in Perth is worth celebrating but the stats over the past 2 weeks tell us that teams have put a plan in place to stifle us and we're not dealing with it. We have some tactical and structural issues to deal with and at the moment, I'm not seeing any methodology in place to attempt to rectify it.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:58 am 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
grrofunger wrote:
few idiots like above in the matchday thread too by the looks of it


I gave up on the match discussion thread at quarter time.


Come on, Brad, my posts weren't that bad....

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:09 am 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
grrofunger wrote:
few idiots like above in the matchday thread too by the looks of it


I gave up on the match discussion thread at quarter time.


Part of the experience is people with alternative opinions on the game, whether you're in the crowd or on a forums live thread.

Clearly though when the majority have Gibbs BOG and the minority choose to slag him, I can see how people get annoyed.

Good news is, the minority witnessed a win, so they'll be away for a few weeks, keeping notes for our next loss.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:41 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Rapt with the win but our accuracy has wallpapered over some serious issues for the coaches to address.
For the second consecutive week, we only scored from about 30% of our forward 50 entries while conceding more than 50% at the other end.
It shows we're not dealing with the opposition putting players defensive side of the ball and what's more, we're getting far less value out of our loose player. Yes Gibbs has been very good but winning games of footy is about kicking more goals than the opposition. Let's be realistic. Had Freo not kicked so poorly in front of goal, we would be lamenting another poor result.

I'm not trying to put a downer on the win. Any win in Perth is worth celebrating but the stats over the past 2 weeks tell us that teams have put a plan in place to stifle us and we're not dealing with it. We have some tactical and structural issues to deal with and at the moment, I'm not seeing any methodology in place to attempt to rectify it.

I thought we gave Freo far too much space in the corridor when it was clear early that was their avenue of attack when they gained possession.

Our inside 50s were very ordinary.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:44 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:45 am 
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We got lucky I believe, which is ok because we've had quite a bit of luck go against us in recent years.

Had they kicked straight early it could have been a completely different game. I'm not happy about the number of scoring shots over the last couple of weeks and I wasn't that impressed last night TBH...but....a win is a win is a win and I'll take it :)

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:50 am 
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what a great win! gees i love this club!


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:51 am 
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Very lucky in the end, take the points and run. Happy with a win in Perth, but 7 fewer scoring shots tells a tale.

Agree with the comments on Betts. He went into the midfield at the start of the third, and was the one who got us going. While others fumbled, he was clean as a whistle.

I have posted my thoughts on our 'method' going into forward 50 previously (bomb and hope), and I saw nothing different last night again, albeit in a difficult game. I still believe that that approach will struggle against the best teams, the better organised defences and the pressure of finals.

One last comment. Channel 7 are destroying the TV viewer's experience of the game with those infuriating close ups. Simply cannot get a feel for what's going on around the play, and get no sense of depth and who is where. I spend half the game screaming at the TV for the director to go to the wide shot.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:00 am 
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
I for one don't mind the guys taking the foot off the pedal in the last quarter, they needed to rest up and save their energy for the incredibly testing match against our traditional rivals next week.



Take any chance to spoil that Godfather of all Tip Rats Kevin Sheedy's win loss ratio against Carlton. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:10 am 
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Siegfried wrote:

I have posted my thoughts on our 'method' going into forward 50 previously (bomb and hope), and I saw nothing different last night again, albeit in a difficult game. I still believe that that approach will struggle against the best teams, the better organised defences and the pressure of finals.



In finals you would think the long bomb in is the way to go. Get it in deep and make a contest. Set the press up behind the ball and force a repeat 50 if we dont score on the first bomb. The repeat 50 should get us some lose options. That would stand up in finals you would think because of the pressure that will be on the kicker going forward. Saw Scotland go a bit shallow to a lead inside 50 in the last and the spoil then rebounded quickly to their 50.

I guess our tactics with the press have a bit to do with the scores from inside 50 % that BV wrote about. We get our press going and have plenty of repeat 50's getting our inside 50 numbers up. If it gets over the back we are open so teams get more bang for their buck going inside 50.
As long as the game is played in our half i am happy. We have the talent and tactics to score more than the oppostion score out the back.

Freo tried what the bombers were doing and just getting it inside a vacant 50 for them to run onto but Ratts and co selected a faster backline and adjusted our structure slighlty so we had most of them attempts covered.

Not sure about all the misses costing them. The ball goes back to the middle after a goals. Unless we lose a game by bad kicking :razz:


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:12 am 
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if, if , if

If Freo kicked straight, the ball would have come back to the centre, not been at their goal line.
Waite hit the post then was blocked by Judd on the goal line. I don't remember any close misses for the Dockers.

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