i agree with this. the majority of warnocks hitouts were ineffective from what i saw.

edit: ah, didn't see OTC. forget this then. I hope warnock steps up a notch if he plays

Losing Jarrad Waite a big blow for Blues

Brokc will miss three weeks.

Duigen Thornton Laidler
Russell Bower Yarran
Gibbs Curnow Simpson
Robinson Kruezer Gartlett
Walker Henderson Betts
Warnock Judd Murphy
Scotland Ellard Houlihan
Sub: Joseph or Austin

re: ruck tap-outs

Presumably 'ineffective' means that it doesn't go anywhere or just spillts out? I think a lot of Warnock's taps found their way to about 1 metre in front of him where he is expecting Carlton players to be. He had the tap and control but last week in particular they seemed to go to a set spot and a set spot that we didnt control. on a few occasions we were there with the handball back behind the ruckman for the clearing kick - but Judd on his left and not running probably isnt the best setup for these.

it may not be good modern footy tactics but one of the things that impressed me about Hammer's last two games was that some taps were actually punched and some went a good distance away from the pack in an attempt to create something. Despite being far taller on the weekend Warnock had minimal effect from controlling the air and yes was outmuscled on the ground.

Yeh you're probably right, it was probably more a team failure than warnock's fault. All i saw was him tapping it to no-one or space from which bulldogs could easily gather.

Can't wait. Haven't been to the G for a game since Joey Anderson towelled up that former Footscray diver, Brad whatshisname, and we beat the Bulldogs on a Sunday in a surprise result at the time.

I really hope the match committee go to Russell, Yarran, Laidler, Duigan, Bower and Thornton and say, your our backline this week. You are it all match. Bower can take Cloke, with assistance, hence get these guys together at the start of the week and start talking / planning with the confidence that they know what they are going to be doing.

Get Lachie to CHF. He is a leading player, not a high jumping mark player. Get him out into space.

Our midfield and Rucks can take theirs, I am sure of it. Yes Jolly is an excellent footballer, but in the ruck, Warnock and Kreuzer are 100 times better than Leigh Brown so if we can break even with Jolly, we are in front.

Walker and Betts start out of the square. Jeff starts on half forward.

Houlihan is the perfect opponent for Shaw as a defensive half forward.

Austin to come back this week as the sub. Any other ins to be small runners and just have a bloody good fast paced crack at them. Austin there as a back up whether it be needed back or forward.

We can do this.

Go Blues

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Bower on Cloke is suicide.

We're obviously grooming Henderson as a key back which is why he didn't get swung into the forward line against the Dogs when Waite went off injured. He has performed well against Riewoldt and Hall the last 2 weeks ... give him the Cloke match-up and see what happens. Going back to the guys who have failed in the past isn't the answer.

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warnock was good against richmond but he was playing against spud kids

overall he is ineffective - his tap method is limp wristed and shows no purpose , he has developed a case of the acklands and is jumping early and he is as soft as butter in contests and around the ground

he needs a fair few pokes in the eyes and lined up and continually berated about his ugliness and his family until he starts to show any signs of anger

we would be better off with krooz/setant at this stage which says a lot

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Having no key forwards is more suicidal.
If Waite was playing, of course Hendo would go to Cloke, but we need at least one marking target.

everyones saying bring back curnow! i saw him on satday in the resses he is atleast a couple of weeks off! he was out of puff at qtr time!!!i honestly think if he came back this week he would struggle for a kick

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not a lot of love for Warnock but

Hit outs 52 to 31
CB hitouts 12 to 6

Clearances 52 to 38
CB clearance 13 to 9

Ruckwork Cont HO CB BU TI Eff
Carlton
1 R. Warnock 73 35 9 9 17 60%
2 M. Kreuzer 40 17 3 7 7 65%
3 A. Walker 1 0 0%
Western Bulldogs
1 B. Hudson 88 29 6 9 14 41%
2 L. Jones 21 0 0%
3 B. Hall 3 0 0%


R warnock 14 dis - 10 contested 4 tackles

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..our best clearance quartet for the year is Knockers rucking to Judd, Murphy and Ellard.. ..so i'd be starting the center bounce with that set-up..

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I think it's a combination of the two mols. Warnock is under instruction to sometimes direct tap, but he does it all the time.

The other two put them into some great zones to run onto at times, and Hammer is prepared to punch as you noted.

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Ratten hinted that things were going to be a bit different with our forwards this week. Sounded like they were going to go a little out of left field.

The dogs did well for 3 quarters against the pies using a small forward line and separating their backline. Perhaps that will be the plan.

I still wouldnt mess with Henda's head by moving him again. He will be a forward in good time but not this week.

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give Kerr a run - he might just do a Justin Davies

I don't know why people are citing Hendo's performances on Riewoldt and Hall as particularly positive. Both opponents have kicked 4 goals (one in a game that we won by 103 pts) after having battled for the past couple of months. His best form was vs Kennedy in the second half vs the Eagles.

In sum, I'd agree that Hendo hasn't been terrible down back, but I wouldn't agree with a statement that he's been particularly good either.

Whichever end he plays at, the issue at the moment is pace - perfectly demonstrated by the first goal Hall kicked when he got beaten in the race back to the ball in the open 50. I fear that this will be even more evident vs the Pies - Cloke will destroy him for pace. As a few have said re Hall, whoever plays on Cloke, 4-5 goals is probably break even.

When Thornton and Bower are just as much, if not more, suited to defence - surely the question is 'who out of those three is most likely to perform up front?'

The answer for me is Henderson and, when sitting fourth on the ladder, clinging on for dear life, we don't prioritise one player's development over team structure.

As an aside, I'm glad Ratts flagged upheaval in the forward structure cos a conventional structure with who we have (don't have) available will get slaughtered. Mosquito fleet with Garlett the focal point, isolated out of the goalsquare is how I would line up. The Pies only defender who can match him for pace is Davis and he doesn't have the defensive skill to compete on the last line.