I agree with this. Happy to take the money when it's there to wipe our debt, but it's not unforeseeable that laws could change and dry up that stream of revenue. Shouldn't have all your eggs in one basket.

every social conscience has it's price

That egg is a new egg in another basket.

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Cheats never prosper (except in the AFL)

By the time Wilkie and Gillard finish with pokies they will no be making you a cent the changes to pokies with the swipe cards and chips are set to wipe most pokie places out with most machines not able to take the technology or it costing $5-10k to adapt

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

and what a great day that will be !

The wretched things are nothing but a scourge on society.

Is there data detailing what percentage of people playing pokies have a gambling problem?

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The problem with Socialism is, you eventually run out of other people's money.

Yeah, I saw it in a Vic Govt report two years ago, but don't have it at hand. Google will probably help you.

BUT the one thing I remember is how astounded I was at the definitions they used for "problem gambling". The thresholds were, to my mind at least, incredibly high.

They had something like four categories, and the top category was "problem gambler" but I remember the second category... not even the one before problem gambler, was something like 3-4 pokies sessions a week, and losses of around $100 a week or something. Not exactly sure but I remember thinking "whoah... that's not right."

To my mind, if you're spending that kind of money and you're not earning a good salary (and let's face it, most pokies players aren't exactly high-rollers) you've got a problem.

So they list four types of pokies players "at risk" but only one of those types as a "problem gambler". I reckon that's quite deceitful, designed purely to make the problem seem as begign as possible.

I got a call the other day asking about the $200 raffle ticket and I responded "Thanks but I already bought one of those a while back." Her response "Yes sir we're aware you bought one in July but we're offering you the chance to buy another one to give yourself a greater chance." That's so kind of them.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

tightarses...!

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There's so much I could say...

Had another call regarding this on Thursday.



Could this club do anymore to piss off its supporters?

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

All clubs do the raffle and call their members. I don't mind it especially if it helps raise money for the club.

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Delulio is a member of TISM

I don't mind it either, provided you're providing people with the inspiration to purchase them, but when you have a membership department that discourages people to join through their incompetence, a communications department thats biggest weakness is communication and you're calling people 4 times to purchase...I think you need to look at how things are being done.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

There are boundaries. 4 times is 2 maybe 3 times too much.

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So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time
A garden to nurture and protect

#DopeThenStash

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

The Age are estimating a return of $13.6 Million to the Club from Pokies in 2012. The Club will have a total of 260 machines with Cwood the next at 191. Not sure what to feel bout this. Will be great to clear the debt and back some $ but ...

I tend to agree, love the idea of debt reduction but hate the concept of pokies period.

Once the Xenophon/Wilkie pokie legislation is passed and implemented I wont have a problem with pokie revenue.

The club also called my home a few weeks ago. My daughter is a concession member as she is a student, they asked her if she would like to buy a $200 raffle ticket. She obviously said no and they said they would ring me later, which thankfully they havent.

What's a third of 4?