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Sometimes the herd mentality of posters on this site beggars belief.

Alot of you have the same thought process as those below.

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Give the bloke a chance FFS!!!!!

The guy is an absolute AFL legend of the highest order who is respected by all that have played with him and against him. Be thankful he will bring an attitude and commitment to perfection that is certainly needed at CFC if it is to continue to improve.

You don't think when Harvs talks to the young lads and says..."This is what it takes to perform at the highest level over 20 years and 383 games'.....the kids won't listen. Carlton has brought a person of terrific character into the club and some here want him gone merely because he talks up his old team.

Jeffdunne looks positively sane compared to some of the comments above.

The same ones that have a crack at Lappo and his attitude on the track now have a crack at Harvs because he is passionate about his old team and thinks a healthy Cousins might help them win a flag. The fact is a fit and healthy Cousins might almost get them to the last game in September if some of their other lesser lights step up.

Do me a favor. Don't let Synbads hatred of all things StKilda tarnish Harvey before he has even set foot in the front door at Visy Park.
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He iss employed by Carlton Cazz..

Thats like being employed by the ANZ and you used to be employed by AMP and now all you talk about is AMP...

Its flower sickening....

If he wants to stay StKildas posterboy he can go work for them...

Its a business... not dial a quote ...

Same as in any other industry...

Give him a chance???

Hes getting a chance to work with our kids... thats what i expect him to comment about....

He should have taken a year off and spoken all about STKilda each time someone called...

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He iss employed by Carlton Cazz..

Thats like being employed by the ANZ and you used to be employed by AMP and now all you talk about is AMP...

Its flower sickening....

If he wants to stay StKildas posterboy he can go work for them...

Its a business... not dial a quote ...

Same as in any other industry...

Give him a chance???

Hes getting a chance to work with our kids... thats what i expect him to comment about....

He should have taken a year off and spoken all about STKilda each time someone called...


Your hatred of all thing StKilda continues to shine through in your argument.

Harvs is flogging his book for goodness sake. It was obviously written and printed prior to him getting the job at CFC. Promotion for the book was also obviously put in place prior to him coming to CFC.

What's he suppose to do......cancel everything because he now works for the Blues? Not likely. The writing of the book is now part of the business of being Robert Harvey post AFL football.

He has a press conference to promote the book and the media ask him different questions about......

His career
His opponents
His old teams future chances
The talk of Cousins going to Stkilda.

They ask, he answers. They may well have asked him some questions about CFC for all we know but if the written press don't report it and decide to go with other parts of the conference then that isn't Harvs fault.

What can he say about the CFC yet anyway? He hasn't even started yet and the kids aren't even back to training. He probably hasn't met any of them yet.

In a few weeks the promotion of Harvs book will be done and dusted and he can move on to being a CFC man. What's the big deal with a few weeks this time of the year? If the book came out in March 2009 then you might have an argument but certainly not now.

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I'm actually with Synbad on this,

but I also thought it was disgraceful when Danny Frawley, whilst coaching the tigers, spoke with the saints players pre game prior to one of their hacks milestones. I didn't get much support then & don't expect it now.

Add Pagan watching Archer play a milestone game last year whilst the bullants were playing at the same time.

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Cazzesman wrote:
Synbad wrote:
He iss employed by Carlton Cazz..

Thats like being employed by the ANZ and you used to be employed by AMP and now all you talk about is AMP...

Its flower sickening....

If he wants to stay StKildas posterboy he can go work for them...

Its a business... not dial a quote ...

Same as in any other industry...

Give him a chance???

Hes getting a chance to work with our kids... thats what i expect him to comment about....

He should have taken a year off and spoken all about STKilda each time someone called...


Your hatred of all thing StKilda continues to shine through in your argument.

Harvs is flogging his book for goodness sake. It was obviously written and printed prior to him getting the job at CFC. Promotion for the book was also obviously put in place prior to him coming to CFC.

What's he suppose to do......cancel everything because he now works for the Blues? Not likely. The writing of the book is now part of the business of being Robert Harvey post AFL football.

He has a press conference to promote the book and the media ask him different questions about......

His career
His opponents
His old teams future chances
The talk of Cousins going to Stkilda.

They ask, he answers. They may well have asked him some questions about CFC for all we know but if the written press don't report it and decide to go with other parts of the conference then that isn't Harvs fault.

What can he say about the CFC yet anyway? He hasn't even started yet and the kids aren't even back to training. He probably hasn't met any of them yet.

In a few weeks the promotion of Harvs book will be done and dusted and he can move on to being a CFC man. What's the big deal with a few weeks this time of the year? If the book came out in March 2009 then you might have an argument but certainly not now.

Regards Cazzesman

I dont hate StKilda.. i dont respect them
I think theyre a pathetic piece of shit of a club...
They have achieved nothing.... in over a hundred years of footy.
Harvey is a bloke who played senior football for 20 years and played in ONE losing final...
He doesnt know what it takes to win a flag..
Their kids are hopeless...and yet he is sprooking Ben Cousins and flags...

Harvey can tak about his book.... Ben Cousins and whether StKilda will win a flag with him or not is not in his book!!!

Harvey has a job to do.... Ben Cousins has nothing to do with his new job.. and either does StKilda winning a premiership from this moment on...

Harvey can talk about the new chapter in his life.

Right now StKildas sad and pathetic attempt in winning a flag and whether a scumbag ike Cousins should or should not be playing has nothing to do with his past at StKilda or his new challenge at Carlton...

Its irrelevant!!!!

He is a man that will learn more at Carlton than what he can teach....in my honest opinion!!!!

He cant teach anyone what a Craig Bradley or Greg Williams cant teach... but he might just see from close up what it takes to win a premiership..

To me it seems Harvey is still at StKilda...and mentally has not begun the job he is being paid handsomely to begin...

Ive heard or read three or four snippets of Harvey and the bulk of his interviews are about StKildas future and not his own....

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A question for all the RH knockers .

Do you think SOS really loves StKilda now , and hates Carlton ? My answer would be "NO' . But he has a job to do and does it the best way he knows , and does his best for StKilda every minute he is employed by them .

I'm sure Robert Harvey will do the same for us ! So for flower sake give the bloke a chance !


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klakker wrote:
A question for all the RH knockers .

Do you think SOS really loves StKilda now , and hates Carlton ? My answer would be "NO' . But he has a job to do and does it the best way he knows , and does his best for StKilda every minute he is employed by them .

I'm sure Robert Harvey will do the same for us ! So for flower sake give the bloke a chance !


yeah SOS is commenting about whether Judd will win Carlton the premiership...

There needs to be a level of professionalism with any employment.

Cousins is not in Harveys book...

Harvery works for Carlton now not StKilda.

Harvey is a champion StKilda footballer....

Did we hire a champion StKilda footballer or a development coach???

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Cazzesman wrote:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Sometimes the herd mentality of posters on this site beggars belief.

Alot of you have the same thought process as those below.

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Have we started paying Harvs?

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Whaaa.............

have we started playing HARVS.............?

pretty sure the midfield's going oh kay Dee Boy..........!


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How can anyone honestly believe the appointment of Robert Harvey is a negative has got shit for brains.

Synbad's argument is flawed. Did Alistair Clarkson play in a premiership?? Mark Williams never played in a premiership either and are both Premiership coaches

So you rather Teague and Skinny Lappin mentor our players.... what success have they had???


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I agree with Melvey



I think I'm gonna be sick...

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Melvey wrote:
How can anyone honestly believe the appointment of Robert Harvey is a negative has got shit for brains.

Synbad's argument is flawed. Did Alistair Clarkson play in a premiership?? Mark Williams never played in a premiership either and are both Premiership coaches

So you rather Teague and Skinny Lappin mentor our players.... what success have they had???


QFT- for once, I agree with you, Melvey.

BTW, you've been playing some positive innings of late- keep it up! :wink:


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I think we are over reacting here. He hasn't started at the Blues and he has just stopped playing after 20 years. Not unreasonable for him to answer questions on the Saints and in the circumstances would be churlish not to.

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Thats like being employed by the ANZ and you used to be employed by AMP and now all you talk about is AMP...

Don't agree Synbad. Footy may be run on business principles of profit and loss but it is built on passion. If every player at Carlton thinks playing for the Blues is like working for a rapacious financial institution and brings in a passion to match then we will be in trouble.

If he can impart his attitude, integrity, work ethic and dedication then he will be a worthy part time employee. He is certainly not a big head and may be good in keeping players feet on the ground. As to his ability to communicate his experience in a meaningful and effective way, I presume he can or he wouldn't have been employed, I assume we assessed this rigourously. Actually, I don't assume this, I just hope like hell we did, or if we didn't that we are lucky.

The more interesting issue is who else we will be appointing. Our totally understaffed development group of Lapp and Teague has been further reduced by replacing Lappo with a part timer in Harves and not renewing Crosisca's contract. He seemed to be a de facto Ants off field coach.

Saddo might fulfill the new Blue's tradition and step in to a coaching role.....


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PD'sPC wrote:
Melvey wrote:
How can anyone honestly believe the appointment of Robert Harvey is a negative has got shit for brains.

Synbad's argument is flawed. Did Alistair Clarkson play in a premiership?? Mark Williams never played in a premiership either and are both Premiership coaches

So you rather Teague and Skinny Lappin mentor our players.... what success have they had???


QFT- for once, I agree with you, Melvey.

BTW, you've been playing some positive innings of late- keep it up! :wink:


Im really starting to like this thing you guys call 'positive' where can i get me a life time supply of it

Im not going to always paint a pretty picture just for the sake of it but to be bagging a great and well respected ambassador to the game in Robert Harvey is nothing but disgraceful.

We should be grateful that he has agreed to mentor and develop our young players just as much as he is grateful to be given the opportunity at such a successful club in ours.


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I agree with Melvey

I think I'm gonna be sick...


Don, take a long deep breath, and as you let it out, you'll feel yourself releasing the tensions in your mind and in your body

repeat this step as many times to you feel you back to some normality and your agrreance was nothing but a bad dream


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I heard something very interesting yesterday from my inside source about RH.

He was asked by Hammil :evil: why he chose Carlton over the Colliwobbles. Apparently he said it was about potential. He thought the current Pies playing group had too much of a party culture as opposed to the young blues who were besotted by Juddy and his preparation. Pressed further on our potential, he answered that we could pinch a flag in the next 3 years based on youthful enthusiasm, but doubted that Colligwood have got the cattle to seriously challenge. He also liked Bryce Gibbs to himself, going on to say that his spacial awareness is second to none and should win a Charlie in the next few years. 8)

A pretty good wrap considering the Filth would have been offering similar money and possibly more than us. :wink:

On another note, my source claims that Craig Bradley had a bit to do with RH getting together with the club initially. Heard anything about this Cazz?

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I heard something very interesting yesterday from my inside source about RH.

He was asked by Hammil :evil: why he chose Carlton over the Colliwobbles. Apparently he said it was about potential. He thought the current Pies playing group had too much of a party culture as opposed to the young blues who were besotted by Juddy and his preparation. Pressed further on our potential, he answered that we could pinch a flag in the next 3 years based on youthful enthusiasm, but doubted that Colligwood have got the cattle to seriously challenge. He also liked Bryce Gibbs to himself, going on to say that his spacial awareness is second to none and should win a Charlie in the next few years. 8)

A pretty good wrap considering the Filth would have been offering similar money and possibly more than us. :wink:

On another note, my source claims that Craig Bradley had a bit to do with RH getting together with the club initially. Heard anything about this Cazz?



Maybe he should state this publicly.... Does he think we would "pinch" it from STKilda?

His job is a development coach... so he needs to think about developing Joey Anderson and Edwards as well as Hartlett etc.. and yes we all know we have a gun group of specially talented kids as well... that are walk up starts as future champions....

How well we will go depends on the lesser lights not the Bryce Gibbs on our list...

Thats where Harves comes in... and thats his job...

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