When did Didak go pick 1??

Anthony Rocca went pick 2.

yeah yeah yeah not pick one. High pick none the less.

He was the second live pick in 2000 after Revolt [PP] and Kosi [Pick 1].

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Will we sort out the kicks ins... at least????

i mean Setanta and Armfield???

All summer to work on the basics......


and thats ot all in fundamentals we need working on either..

ok lets give him a chance to sort out the kick ins....

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So what number was JK????

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Don't worry Synbad we play your beloved Pies in a fort night - We will revisit this arguement then

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Will we have set plays to kick out with designated kickers?
Will there be talk and blocking and helping out your teammate???
Will there be any run to create space ????

What makes you say theyre my beloved Magpies???

Why is it you have a hard time in comprehension....???

Just in this thread alone youve probably missrepresented or lied about what im saying at least 5 times???



Is there something wrong with you???

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Its not really an argument. Some people want to give ratts a chance others want instant results.

People can view it any way they want really.

Not too many coaches get rusults straight away. Including them at the top of the ladder now.


Real discussion should be about whether we trade fev and build a modern forward line. Ess and Carlton are living in the dark ages. ..........................another thread perhaps.

As i keep saying my results are not to win games immediately.. theyre the simple things an AFL football club does...

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It's quite simple - if you do the right fundamentals winning takes care of itself. The arugement will always be what constitutes the fundamentals. It would be interesting to know what Ratt's fundamentals are?

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Look if you cant do the fundamentals.
Youre not going to get anything else either... its simple.

we suck in the footy fundamentals... but we wanna play tempo footy.. cos its "kind of hype".....which just confused us cos we didnt go anywhere with the ball till we bored them to death ....

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Give a coach his first senior gig, and you have to expect he's going to be learning on the job.

I'm not surprised Ratts is making mistakes. What first-time coach hasn't?

I must admit, Synbad has a very good point regarding the kick in's.
Just crazy to see a 1st gamer like Armfield and others such as Setanta take the kick in's.

My questions is why when this year is clearly a development year, do we drop Edwards and Pfeiffer. We need forwardline help and giving Edwards pure game time till the end of the year will give us a chance to see if he is up to it.

Why is Fisher not staying forward ?
Why is Wiggins playing ?
Why does Carazzo still continue to disappear in big games and not hit targets ?
Why does Gibbs not have a set role ? ie Forward
What is Russells Role ? I have no idea.
Why not try something different ie Betts in the middle ?
Why did our midfield get smashed on the weekend ? No inside 50's in the 3rd. This is disgraceful for an AFL team.
Why do the players not chase and tackle, Shepherd etc
Why dont we have a structure up forward ? Clearly Geelong did not care as they put Milburn forward.....
Why do we continue to pass the ball over players heads straight to opposition players with no pressure?
Why when Murphy was running forward had no awareness and was tackled ? Someone should of been running with him and shepherding for him or at least talking to him.

I step forward and two steps back.

The inside 50's for the match were 40 to 66 in Geelong's favour (http://www.prowess.com.au/pro-stats/rep ... ort_77.pdf) yet we broke even/won in contested possessions/disputed ball (167 to 153) and had more centre clearances (40 to 36). We were smashed in the hitouts 58 to 22. I haven't watched the game yet, but these stats seem to indicate we won enough of the ball from the middle but couldn't get the ball inside 50 often enough.

What options were available to players who had the ball in the middle or coming out of defence? Who was Andrew Mackie's opponent (looking at the stats he got a lot of uncontested ball)? Why did Carrazzo have 20 ball receives? Do we want to get the ball in his hands to deliver it forward?

Yep...........Ratts sure has plenty to work with there

The shepherding and tackling/pressure is the number 1 issue for me (we got it right against the Pies...watch the replay), closely followed by Fwd line structure.

Good points Effes. I think we failed to convert a lot of our inside 50's in the first half with sloppy kicks - some forced, most unforced. In the third we couldn't find a target coming out from half-back as we were caught in a press where it was too difficult to clear. Big questions to be asked on who / why certain players were forced to take the kickouts (agree with Synbad here, noting its been a pet issue of his for some time and seemingly something we aren't managing) and what forward line structures work to clear the ball when we only have 1 target. There was no run as we couldnt find space. Pretty hard to watch, looked hard to play.

John,,, ummmm i agree with a coach learning on the job.

We have a couple of problems,.

First is the on field leadership (apart from Judd).. youd think Scotland Simmo or Stevens would be taking the kick ins and not leaving it for a kid or the Irishman...

But thats something thats sorted out early in pre season.... not something thats up in the air 10 weeks into the season proper... its just so basic.

Secondly the blocking and the shepherding and voice is a REAL concern...

and thirdly after Fev who is our second leading goalkicker and how many???

These are things you must have ironed out early....and havent been..

But if youre failing in those things how are you going to organise a game plan to improve the side properly overall???

Impossible...

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Fevola 40
Betts 14
Fisher 10
Judd 9
Stevens 9
Murphy 8
Gibbs 6
Wiggins 5
Simpson 5
Scotland 5
Pfeiffer 4
O'hAilpin 3
Kreuzer 3
Edwards 3
Browne 3
Cloke 3
Bannister 2
Hadley 2
Houlihan 2
Carrazzo 2
Ellard 1
Hampson 1
Russell 1
Grigg 1

See it works like this... for a player to run with the ball and carry it to break the lines you need players to be working with him.. (ie block and shepherd) you also need players to reate room and options ...and that way you dont play a stagnant style of footy.

Well if you dont want to see Judd crippled by getting the hard ball himself and then having to create fat for the rest of the team to chew off all on his own.. you need to build a working relationship for judd and the rest of the team to block and create space and options (for Fev too)

Rght now we have what seems like a gameplan to me that we will try for Judd to get the ball out time and time again in contested situations/hard ball gets and give it to fev who is fighting 3 or more defenders....

Thats not a game plan... in fact its going to end both of their careers sooner....

Its a worry!!!

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