Could be a interesting read

might have all the details of the fev- bingle saga n co to spice it up

The fev fall out in perth etc


Its gotta have the souvlaki hut in it

We should be grateful to DP that we didn't get the PP in 2004. We might have ended up with Tambling and Deludio .

He has written the book with Tony De Bolfo.

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I only heard a snippet of the caller, but I think he said that he played 2 years under DP and 9 years in total.

Therefore the caller started around 1996 and ended around 2004.

Beaumont was with the Blues for 9 years - 1995 - 2003 - quite possibly him.

Not sure who else fits the bill, Glenn Manton?

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It didn't sound like Manton.

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I agree

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don't let collard see it

Dont you remember the 99 GF - Corey tore us a new one - indifferent form in 2001 but the scenario is not to different to the Judd deal

Lets hope the out come is better

If the AFL had not imposed the penalties we would have had 6 picks in the top 20 in three years and traded a late first round pick for a bloke who was a quality player -
Hardly bad list management

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That's pretty conservative.

Clearly Kouta doesn't care that he might lose some fans over this. Credit to him for saying what he believes in, for speaking up for it.

As soon as Pagan came to our club I was his number 1 critic. Everything Kouta revealed, I was saying all along. If you looked at his last couple of seasons at north you could see he was over the hill. And with us you just had to look at where he played players to know he had no clue. Game plan goes without saying.

Doesn't De Bolfo work for the club under the Visi payroll now? Am I reading too much into this?

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Pretty hard to do your job well when the process you are being forced to follow is the wrong one.



Hang on. He doesn't have the right to sell his book when he sees fit? When should he sell it? In 2010? The season is over, he has every right to sell his book as soon as possible. Why should he wait until June 2009? For the club's sake? Pfft, you're seriously overreacting. Business is business. He will use the Pagan material to help sell his book, he has every right to. For anyone to suggest he shouldn't milk the barstard who treated him like shit is laughable and lacks a real understanding of the real world. Pagan is gone, the club is headed in the right direction. I don't see what Kouta has done will harm the Carlton brand, if anything it will strengthen it because everyone will now know we got rid of a cancer and there can be no doubt we are now headed in the right direction.



It is when you are laughing all the way to the bank ruining a football club at the same time.




It's a pretty big thing for a leadership group to complain to the board about their coach. Bit naive to expect the players should have done this earlier. Be thankful they eventually did it. Did you complain to the board? You were probably happy seeing Pagan run the club into the ground.



You're kidding right? If your boss was hopelessly overpaid and terrible at his job, would you offer to take a pay cut to get rid of him?



Not sure what the relevance of the last bit there is. As I see it, Kouta had a very good argument, that given their circumstances peaking too early was pure stupidity.




In Brittain's last year we had what I would consider to be the worst run with injuries the club has ever had. You conveniently overlooked this didn't you?

http://www.blueseum.org/cfc/tiki-read_a ... rticleId=5

I feel like Lurker Blue - sitting here, lurking, waiting for the right post to add a relevant Blueseum link. This article goes through who was injured in 2002 and for how many games.

I'm just glad he hasn't tipped a bucket like Thomas did on the Saints. Good coach or bad, at least he had the dignity to keep his trap shut. Even if it was because of a settlement.

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Do you think Denis will ever release a book? I actually hope he does. Not that I want him to tip shit on everyone, but to get the inside story from his perspective. It'd beinteresting to get his reasons on why he did the things he did, for better or worse.

I am really Angry at this

Kouta can just flower off for all I care, Kouta was a great player but thats about it, bet the book has very little on leadership as he would not know what that was.

He should have a good look at himself instead of taking cheap shots at an ex coach to sell books.

Thank god he has gone he joins the Lance, Campo and Hamil bunch

At least Pago has some dignity left which is more than what can be said for Koutagooseee

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Look Kouta said what we all knew.. but as captain.. he had a res[onsibility as well.
As a paid employee he had a responsibility as well..
He had a responsibility to earn his dollars...

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Oh, that's a good one.

I suppose if you were in his shoes, you'd keep your gob shut and let that horrible coach get away scott free. He is being paid out remember! He did ruin the club remember! But no, let's keep our mouths shut and not let the truth get out there.

Pagan damaged this club severely. His actions were as bad if not worse than the draft sanctions. He deserves to have his reputation wrecked, and good on Kouta for making a bob or two at the evil one's expense.

Again, I suggest to you none of this hurts our club. It shows we're on the rebound because we are free of that terrible coach.

The who?

He did his knee, then in the years that followed won a Best & fairest, and was no.1 in the AFL for clearances, and took multiple pay cuts, and now has said what no other Carlton people have had the guts to say.