Only fools around here are those that lead "the lets march on Berlin through a hail of machine gun fire using only our bravado and derring do as a shield" brigade.

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Unlike the "Let's just stand here, throw down our arms and bullet-proof vests and let that flurry of gunfire continue to pierce our vital organs until they run out of bullets" crowd?

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Guys, it has nothing to do with us whether the club tank or not.

If we do win a game you cant blame the anti tankers. Thats just stupid. And if we dont win anything you cant blame the pro tankers.

Just let it unfold and take it as it comes.

Today their experienced players got them over the line in the end. No proof of any tanking. Ratten looked gutted.

Yep youll feel much better winning junk time and losing a premier ruckman of the future plus pick 3.

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You're damn right I will.

I'll be much happier knowing this group of 22 kids will sleep better at night and enjoy their football more from the confidence they will gain from "junk time" wins, than having a precocious 18 year old walking into a club full of losers.

Oh and BTW, we'll still get pick 3. We might even get pick 2

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Yep, why would you be stupid enough to get 2 out of the top 3 draft picks - we only need 1.

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Happy enough with the effort. Annoyed we lost, but 24 hours later I can accept that the PP is still a viable option.

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Cer 'ch 'n alluog Blues

You are aware there are about 25 or so other players on this team aren't you? You'd rather have their development stilted just so we can get one extra kid?

I see your logic there. @#$%&! em all, this one kid's gonna save us from the depths in his mighty chariot on wings of angels!

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he'll definately @#$%&! help

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

You know something Donny, you are absolutely right, @#$%&! the extra top 3 draft pick.

Lets just have an extra pick around 70, we might just get a Westhoff or a Fisher.

Player development and a "do it for the gipper" attitude will take care of the rest.

I just wish I could go back in time - and told Wes Lofts and Jack Elliott to tear up Kernahan's form four - we just should have perservered eith Jamie Dunlop at Centre Half Forward.

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Maybe he will, maybe he won't.

But one thing I know for sure WILL help, would be for our current group of players to, oh I dunno, get better. Harder for that to happen when you lose your last 11 games, which is what people want to happen.

AGRO, it's drawing a long bow even by your standards to be comparing this Kreuzer bloke to Kernahan. I certainly 'd at the comparison

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see this is the lie you spread

even with a time machine

even if you could travel back in time

even with what you know now

so what?

the club couldn't give a flying rat's arse what you think

and still don't

but you pretend what you think matters

it doesn't

only how you react, enjoy, deal with their results matters

so I react to their results

the rest in in their hands - whether you want to think you have influence or not.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

We can sit and argue for hours over the next 5 weeks about this bloody PP! I tell you that come round 22 we will notched up win number five over those useless Demons! Unless, we field the Northern Bullants on the day we all can kiss the Precious PP away. The PP is beyond our control. The team won't tank and Melbourne are playing like girls and so there is the answer. Bye Bye PP!!

u dont get it donstui.....

nobody here WANTS us to lose.......... but when we do lose we make ourselves feel better by claiming were tanking and and thanking our lucky stars were still a chance at the PP

dont lose faith we all wanna win!

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thats pretty bad-ass!

Funny, reading posts like "Phew, we nearly won that one" and "Let's hope we get some injuries/suspensions before the Melbourne game" tells me otherwise.

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No youre hoping lets hope Melbourne tanks and we win....

Youre happy to have an average team as long as you win 6 games a year... you want win... lose lose lose.. win.. lose lose... win...lose..lose...lose...lose...win... etc..

Thayre the kind of season you like...
All you want is to win the odd game of meaninglessness.. just so you dont feel too bad.....

The rest of us can take a slap... another slap.. so we dont have to wait each 2 or 3 games for the win...

cos to you that makes you a REAL supporter.... to me i just think youre weird...

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These are the people that were rooting for the "Judean People's Front Crack Suicide Squad" - "we sure showed them".

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Good to see a ray of common sense. Whether we win or not is down to 22 players over the next four weeks. Too many anti-tankers have lost their sense of humour, what will be will be, just lets see if we're good enough to win a game or two.

I saw Essendon* today, they are very beatable.

I'm telling you we could win 2 of these last 4 games,forget Port Adelaide and i think Kangaroos,who have way to much to lose but Essendon* we can beat and Melbourne almost certain the way we are playing, but if Melbourne had their best side it would be close.

I think if we lose the next 3 games i can't really see anyone who follow Carlton wanting to win one game to get 5 wins and all would be forgotten the next day and then be so happy waiting for 6 months for the season to begin while sweating like a pig in Summer knowing we still haven't got a true Ruckman,don't get me saying Jacobs is,he might get on the list but he wont be a star,he will be a dinosaur Ruckman,has no speed and Asaike would probably be used elsewhere or as a second Ruckman leaving Shaun Hampson who just started playing the game about the same time Asaike did who are both just projects at the moment.

So if we win next week i hope they win all the games,but if comes to the last game i'm sure the winner is the loser.

One extra gun player wont make much difference but 1 extra win this year is the difference between the whole squad being losers or not?

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