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 Post subject: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:15 am 
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BamBam7 wrote:
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Marchbank is needed and can play. He is the one we just need to get right. 1 year contracts don’t bite.
Agreed. If he shows even the slightest sign of still being able to play at AFL level and gets through the rest of the season without another injury, you've gotta give him one more year.

He's too good to give up on that easily.


Unfortunately we’re stuck with Williams and Martin next year, that’s already one to many injury prone long term players. We have to be logical about our list management.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:20 am 
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sinbagger wrote:
BamBam7 wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Marchbank is needed and can play. He is the one we just need to get right. 1 year contracts don’t bite.
Agreed. If he shows even the slightest sign of still being able to play at AFL level and gets through the rest of the season without another injury, you've gotta give him one more year.

He's too good to give up on that easily.


Unfortunately we’re stuck with Williams and Martin next year, that’s already one to many injury prone long term players. We have to be logical about our list management.


We should be allowed to sign him as a category B rookie as he hasn't played footy in years :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:21 am 
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sinbagger wrote:
BamBam7 wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Marchbank is needed and can play. He is the one we just need to get right. 1 year contracts don’t bite.
Agreed. If he shows even the slightest sign of still being able to play at AFL level and gets through the rest of the season without another injury, you've gotta give him one more year.

He's too good to give up on that easily.


Unfortunately we’re stuck with Williams and Martin next year, that’s already one to many injury prone long term players. We have to be logical about our list management.


100%. How many do you carry? It has held us back for too long


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:26 am 
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For all of the criticism our recruiting team take and as wobbly as the year has been so far, It’s worth acknowledging 5 emerging talents that haven’t more than 50 games between them
Cincotta, Boyd, hollands, Cowan and Kemp

Austin is doing his job. And dare I say it, thanks SOS for making the call on Kemp

It’s my positive on 2023 as it is to date


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:38 am 
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london blue wrote:
For all of the criticism our recruiting team take and as wobbly as the year has been so far, It’s worth acknowledging 5 emerging talents that haven’t more than 50 games between them
Cincotta, Boyd, hollands, Cowan and Kemp

Austin is doing his job. And dare I say it, thanks SOS for making the call on Kemp

It’s my positive on 2023 as it is to date


Agree. You can add Binns Lemmey O'Keefe who all look very promising.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:44 am 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
london blue wrote:
For all of the criticism our recruiting team take and as wobbly as the year has been so far, It’s worth acknowledging 5 emerging talents that haven’t more than 50 games between them
Cincotta, Boyd, hollands, Cowan and Kemp

Austin is doing his job. And dare I say it, thanks SOS for making the call on Kemp

It’s my positive on 2023 as it is to date


Agree. You can add Binns Lemmey O'Keefe who all look very promising.

Perhaps FB…I haven’t seen them on the big stage so didn’t include


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:01 am 
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london blue wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
london blue wrote:
For all of the criticism our recruiting team take and as wobbly as the year has been so far, It’s worth acknowledging 5 emerging talents that haven’t more than 50 games between them
Cincotta, Boyd, hollands, Cowan and Kemp

Austin is doing his job. And dare I say it, thanks SOS for making the call on Kemp

It’s my positive on 2023 as it is to date


Agree. You can add Binns Lemmey O'Keefe who all look very promising.

Perhaps FB…I haven’t seen them on the big stage so didn’t include


Agree london, but have you checked to see what SOS missed on by splitting pick 11 for Philp and Kemp?
Not letting SOS off that easy, but yes, its nice to see Kemp play his best game of his career. Now we need to see more of those before SOS is crowned the best recruiter of all time (after having 400 selections, 200 first rounders, between 2 clubs over 9 years) :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:06 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Marchbank is needed and can play. He is the one we just need to get right. 1 year contracts don’t bite.



I admit I have a man crush on Marchbank.
Amazing athlete, and can play footy too.
Even a rookie spot just to keep him on the list.
I cant argue that he will stand up because Ive been burnt over the last 5 of the 7 years he's been with us.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:12 am 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Today proved to me again we aren't that far away but need a list refresh to add some young class and speed and to fill a few holes.

Big, important trade period coming up.


So, no more need to contemplate 7-10 delistings and trades?


Still needs to happen IMO

Cuningham needs to stay fit. Philp Ed Curnow Marchbank Plowman Fisher Honey need to go. Still need to trade McGovern & TDK and there are a few others that have 8 weeks to prove themselves



Need to go? Honey? Needs to go? Because he turns 22yo? but hasnt had the time as those you mentioned (except for Philp) to prove themselves?

Each to their own.

I think you have big tickets on the midgets (Fisher was one till you succumbed, and the other 2 are Durdin and Motlop who lack an important weapon for a small). We all have our opinions, but I have to stick up for Honey's upside. Too young to be delisted imo.

I dont like the kids being dropped without see them developed.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:45 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
london blue wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
london blue wrote:
For all of the criticism our recruiting team take and as wobbly as the year has been so far, It’s worth acknowledging 5 emerging talents that haven’t more than 50 games between them
Cincotta, Boyd, hollands, Cowan and Kemp

Austin is doing his job. And dare I say it, thanks SOS for making the call on Kemp

It’s my positive on 2023 as it is to date


Agree. You can add Binns Lemmey O'Keefe who all look very promising.

Perhaps FB…I haven’t seen them on the big stage so didn’t include


Agree london, but have you checked to see what SOS missed on by splitting pick 11 for Philp and Kemp?
Not letting SOS off that easy, but yes, its nice to see Kemp play his best game of his career. Now we need to see more of those before SOS is crowned the best recruiter of all time (after having 400 selections, 200 first rounders, between 2 clubs over 9 years) :wink:


Don’t care about ‘what if’s’…...no claim of mine that SOS is the best recruiter…..simply celebrating the moment and grateful we’ve got Kemp


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:48 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Today proved to me again we aren't that far away but need a list refresh to add some young class and speed and to fill a few holes.

Big, important trade period coming up.


So, no more need to contemplate 7-10 delistings and trades?


Still needs to happen IMO

Cuningham needs to stay fit. Philp Ed Curnow Marchbank Plowman Fisher Honey need to go. Still need to trade McGovern & TDK and there are a few others that have 8 weeks to prove themselves



Need to go? Honey? Needs to go? Because he turns 22yo? but hasnt had the time as those you mentioned (except for Philp) to prove themselves?

Each to their own.

I think you have big tickets on the midgets (Fisher was one till you succumbed, and the other 2 are Durdin and Motlop who lack an important weapon for a small). We all have our opinions, but I have to stick up for Honey's upside. Too young to be delisted imo.

I dont like the kids being dropped without see them developed.


Honey is a very average forward. That's why I suggested he play back

I have NEVER been a big Fisher fan. I do rate Durdin & Motlop. Motlop I believe will be very good, just very young


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:59 pm 
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Lemmey looks alright if you ask me.
He is going to fill pout and be a very big boy.
He seems to move well for such a big lad.
Looks like he can ruck and also play forward.
Watch this space.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:06 pm 
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I think the jury is still out on Austin's decisions to trade Durdin and Motlop. Obviously he was instructed that he needed to focus on small forwards, so I think he has an out if those 2 don't go on to be really good players (and I am not suggesting I don't like both players, it is just I am not as yet sold they will be stars... and of course I acknowledge it is still very early).

But I think Austin totally aced last year's draft. I think Hollands is going to be a ripper. Not only is he an amazing runner but he has guts for a skinny runt and I love the way he keeps his heads up when he has a touch of time, kid is always looking to find the right option.

Binns also looks a treat, though maybe more as a HB/winger than a midfielder per se. Like Hollands his running capacity is elite and he knows how to find it and uses it really well. But I am not he is as quick as some people have claimed. Strikes me as a really good outside accumulator a bit like Doc in some way.

And Cowan is the third one. He has 200-Game-HB written all over him. Tough. Reads it well. Has dash.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:30 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
Lemmey looks alright if you ask me.
He is going to fill pout and be a very big boy.
He seems to move well for such a big lad.
Looks like he can ruck and also play forward.
Watch this space.


Can play CHB as well. Will be interesting to see where he ends up


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:37 pm 
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london blue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
london blue wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
london blue wrote:
For all of the criticism our recruiting team take and as wobbly as the year has been so far, It’s worth acknowledging 5 emerging talents that haven’t more than 50 games between them
Cincotta, Boyd, hollands, Cowan and Kemp

Austin is doing his job. And dare I say it, thanks SOS for making the call on Kemp

It’s my positive on 2023 as it is to date


Agree. You can add Binns Lemmey O'Keefe who all look very promising.

Perhaps FB…I haven’t seen them on the big stage so didn’t include


Agree london, but have you checked to see what SOS missed on by splitting pick 11 for Philp and Kemp?
Not letting SOS off that easy, but yes, its nice to see Kemp play his best game of his career. Now we need to see more of those before SOS is crowned the best recruiter of all time (after having 400 selections, 200 first rounders, between 2 clubs over 9 years) :wink:


Don’t care about ‘what if’s’…...no claim of mine that SOS is the best recruiter…..simply celebrating the moment and grateful we’ve got Kemp


Succinct and to the point: He goes BANG

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:39 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Marchbank is needed and can play. He is the one we just need to get right. 1 year contracts don’t bite.



I admit I have a man crush on Marchbank.
Amazing athlete, and can play footy too.
Even a rookie spot just to keep him on the list.
I cant argue that he will stand up because Ive been burnt over the last 5 of the 7 years he's been with us.


If you want a third tall go get Nick Coughlan from Werribee . Excellent player who has all the tools Marchbank has and is in one piece . Cost you a Pie and a can of Coke .

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
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Cerra is a star ... :grin: :thanks:

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:23 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Marchbank is needed and can play. He is the one we just need to get right. 1 year contracts don’t bite.



I admit I have a man crush on Marchbank.
Amazing athlete, and can play footy too.
Even a rookie spot just to keep him on the list.
I cant argue that he will stand up because Ive been burnt over the last 5 of the 7 years he's been with us.


If you want a third tall go get Nick Coughlan from Werribee . Excellent player who has all the tools Marchbank has and is in one piece . Cost you a Pie and a can of Coke .


I know who you are talking about. Only noticed him vs Carlton.

If he does have all the tools Marchbank has, then get him for a can of coke and a pie. I will throw in a Jiffy donut and a Glug in his package.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:13 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Marchbank is needed and can play. He is the one we just need to get right. 1 year contracts don’t bite.



I admit I have a man crush on Marchbank.
Amazing athlete, and can play footy too.
Even a rookie spot just to keep him on the list.
I cant argue that he will stand up because Ive been burnt over the last 5 of the 7 years he's been with us.


If you want a third tall go get Nick Coughlan from Werribee . Excellent player who has all the tools Marchbank has and is in one piece . Cost you a Pie and a can of Coke .


Need some smart recruiting like this


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:33 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Marchbank is needed and can play. He is the one we just need to get right. 1 year contracts don’t bite.



I admit I have a man crush on Marchbank.
Amazing athlete, and can play footy too.
Even a rookie spot just to keep him on the list.
I cant argue that he will stand up because Ive been burnt over the last 5 of the 7 years he's been with us.


If you want a third tall go get Nick Coughlan from Werribee . Excellent player who has all the tools Marchbank has and is in one piece . Cost you a Pie and a can of Coke .


I know who you are talking about. Only noticed him vs Carlton.

If he does have all the tools Marchbank has, then get him for a can of coke and a pie. I will throw in a Jiffy donut and a Glug in his package.

Now you're talking. 2 of my favourites. :lol:

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