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Who should coach us next year?
Brad Scott 16%  16%  [ 16 ]
Michael Voss 20%  20%  [ 19 ]
Mark Williams 11%  11%  [ 11 ]
Don Pyke 22%  22%  [ 21 ]
Danny Daly 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Scott Burns 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Giansiracusa 5%  5%  [ 5 ]
Jaymie Graham 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Adam Kingsley 16%  16%  [ 16 ]
Adam Yze 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Nigel Lappin 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Jarrad Schofield 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Steven King 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 97
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:22 pm 
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If you personally were a potential topline coach would you be happy to come to come to Carlton and be a decent chance of having your career screwed?


Absolutely.
A 23 year old AA key forward and a 23 year old key defender who should have been AA.
A 21 year old AA midfielder. A 26 year old mid who was voted MVP of the AFL 2 years ago.
A returning Charlie Curnow with hopefully a full pre-season. Saad, a full pre-season into Williams, Stocker, Liam Jones, Cuningham returning, a top 6 pick this year and a couple of first round picks who haven't played 5 games yet due to injury. (Kemp, Philp) Pre-seasons into TDK, Jack Carroll, Durdin and Honey.
There's shitloads of potential. We need to keep our players on the park and to provide a game plan to maximises our abilities. A finals berth will be viewed as a successful year.
Let's not forget, we had games against NM and GC that would have put us in the 8 had we not shit the bed and been decimated by injury.
It's a plum job coming off a bottom 6 finish IMHO.


That's the issue. It's not the list talent. Issues is underlying and it is something 6 coaches this century haven't fixed. Culture is horrible. Unless that is fixed a 7th is going to fare no better. Until that is sorted that list is what you call false economy BV. No good having a list that looks good if the players don't find the motivation to work hard on a regular basis. We're are coach killers.

If it was just a case of injury killing us only then Teague, with a fit list, would have played finals. Then why would you sack him if that's the theory (i'm just talking the theory here BV). The thing is he was brought undone by players they are not motivated or have the inner drive to succeed, have no inclination to defend anywhere on the ground or run two ways, something he would have trusted the players to do. Same with all our other coaches this century.

I wouldn't touch the job with barge pole if I was a first time coach. The reward may be high, but the risk is huge that you are gone in 3 years with the tail wagging the dog, might even if you get a honeymoon 1st year like Ratts did at St.Kilda.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:25 pm 
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Gia into $4.50

Please, no

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Gia's my pick. Looked every inch a coach during his latter days at the Dogs on the bench when he was injured. Coached his own team to 2nd after the regular VFL season, and was named assistant of the year in 2019. I'm happy to take him.


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CFC8795 wrote:
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I don't care how long it takes as long as we get the "right" coach, this time!


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I don't care how long it takes as long as we get the "right" coach, this time!

Pagan was considered the "right" coach.
Ratts was considered the "right" coach.
Madhouse was considered the "right" coach.
Etc.
We have a good track record of getting the "right" coach. :smoking:

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actually we do, just not in the last 20 years....

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CFC8795 wrote:
carntheblues wrote:
CFC8795 wrote:
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I don't care how long it takes as long as we get the "right" coach, this time!

Pagan was considered the "right" coach.
Ratts was considered the "right" coach.
Madhouse was considered the "right" coach.
Etc.
We have a good track record of getting the "right" coach. :smoking:

Ratts was the right coach , he made the finals the year after trading fevola and we were a free kick in the goal square to Walker away from a prelim against the cats

And he had Thornton and ohalpin as our fwd line

The problem for ratts , he had a weak president in sticks abs a manipulator in Swann !! First chance they got they knifed him ... so let’s move fwd !! Fast fwd 8 years and here we are again after a bucket load of incompetent decisions

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azzablue wrote:
CFC8795 wrote:
carntheblues wrote:
CFC8795 wrote:
Anyone else looking forward to getting this all sorted and this Thread closing?



I don't care how long it takes as long as we get the "right" coach, this time!

Pagan was considered the "right" coach.
Ratts was considered the "right" coach.
Madhouse was considered the "right" coach.
Etc.
We have a good track record of getting the "right" coach. :smoking:

Ratts was the right coach , he made the finals the year after trading fevola and we were a free kick in the goal square to Walker away from a prelim against the cats

And he had Thornton and ohalpin as our fwd line

The problem for ratts , he had a weak president in sticks abs a manipulator in Swann !! First chance they got they knifed him ... so let’s move fwd !! Fast fwd 8 years and here we are again after a bucket load of incompetent decisions


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I know for a fact Sticks also didn’t agree with the decision but had no option as majority held sway.


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The asking Collingwood for assistance is embarrassing.

Maybe we should ask someone else to run the place...


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:59 pm 
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The asking Collingwood for assistance is embarrassing.

Maybe we should ask someone else to run the place...


And how do you know this is true? Cmon just cause Carro said it. ? As if we are going to Collingwood for help. Do you really believe this?


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SurreyBlue wrote:
azzablue wrote:
CFC8795 wrote:
carntheblues wrote:
CFC8795 wrote:
Anyone else looking forward to getting this all sorted and this Thread closing?



I don't care how long it takes as long as we get the "right" coach, this time!

Pagan was considered the "right" coach.
Ratts was considered the "right" coach.
Madhouse was considered the "right" coach.
Etc.
We have a good track record of getting the "right" coach. :smoking:

Ratts was the right coach , he made the finals the year after trading fevola and we were a free kick in the goal square to Walker away from a prelim against the cats

And he had Thornton and ohalpin as our fwd line

The problem for ratts , he had a weak president in sticks abs a manipulator in Swann !! First chance they got they knifed him ... so let’s move fwd !! Fast fwd 8 years and here we are again after a bucket load of incompetent decisions


:clap:

I know for a fact Sticks also didn’t agree with the decision but had no option as majority held sway.



Sorry that doesn’t fly with me , he had a voice !! He let ratts down and he let Swan and malthouse trade out within 2 years

Betts Garlett yaz and Robbo ,and bought in that fraud daisy

Sticks champion player , shithouse administrator/ president !!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:06 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
thryleon wrote:
The asking Collingwood for assistance is embarrassing.

Maybe we should ask someone else to run the place...


And how do you know this is true? Cmon just cause Carro said it. ? As if we are going to Collingwood for help. Do you really believe this?

Sayers was head of Pwc and he is going to ask the rabble pies , how they go about it

Come on guys think logically

Caro just pissed she ain’t getting leaks out of the club atm

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Drewgirl wrote:
thryleon wrote:
The asking Collingwood for assistance is embarrassing.

Maybe we should ask someone else to run the place...


And how do you know this is true? Cmon just cause Carro said it. ? As if we are going to Collingwood for help. Do you really believe this?



I get my news from other supporters not the media. This is embarrassing.


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bondiblue wrote:
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So Lyon pulls out cos he doesn't want to go through the process, yet the media are now saying Brad Scott is the favourite before any process has even begun?
Is Brad Scott going to go through the process or is he just getting offered the job and we are not going through any process?
Assuming what the media are saying is true and I know that is a huge assumption, something doesn't add up here.

The silence coming from sayers and the club , is Driving the media insane

I like sayers us staying firm and won’t buckle under Board challenges and media driven scrutiny

Our previous president would of already buckled ,


I think you're right azza.

It has been the case all along. The media need a story and to control the narrative. That way the 'story' has legs, and with that Headlines, followed by sales and clicks for the twits.


It was only 2 weeks ago that the president himself admitted he’s frustrated by leaks coming from the club:

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/08/27/blues-concerned-about-the-amount-of-leaks-coming-out-of-the-club/

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It starts at the board and management and there’s already started to be a number of conversations at the board and at management over the last two or three weeks.

There has been a slowing of information out of a number of areas which I love and we’ve got to tighten up


I’m not saying everything in the media is true, but i don’t think we can claim ‘silence’ from the club.

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Board needs development and training like our next coach.


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azzablue wrote:
Sorry that doesn’t fly with me , he had a voice !! He let ratts down and he let Swan and malthouse trade out within 2 years

Betts Garlett yaz and Robbo ,and bought in that fraud daisy

Sticks champion player , shithouse administrator/ president !!


Need to remember the president has a major vote but he must also allow the list manager, coach, footy manager, ceo to do their job. He can’t keep overruling their decisions, as he might as well not have them.


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thryleon wrote:
The asking Collingwood for assistance is embarrassing.

Maybe we should ask someone else to run the place...


Yeah, we’re Carlton of f**k the rest!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:03 am 
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For the life of me I cant understand why talking to collingwood about their process would be a bad thing, also dont see why talking to them about their views on theur aoplicants either. Collingwood would have some learnings from their process that may help us


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For the life of me I cant understand why talking to collingwood about their process would be a bad thing, also dont see why talking to them about their views on theur aoplicants either. Collingwood would have some learnings from their process that may help us


No. Get with the program Sandra. Everything Carlton does is bad! And even if we didn't do it, if the media or supporters say we did, it's bad anyway!
You're not following the narrative correctly.

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