Thanks.
I just seem to remember hearing about our interest in Tomlinson before I heard about our interest in Marchbank, so just wanted to find out more.

Cheers.

I know that Mick Mcguane isn't a great fan of Tomlinson. Reckons his kicks lack penetration and creativity

He wasn't too bad a player at Port. Suffered under Hinkley's coaching. Averaged a shade under 20 disposals a match in 2013/2014 as a tall running HBF. Hinkley then tried to turn him into a lock down defender and basically destroyed him. Worth a rookie spot or a late pick.

Tomlinson wanted to return home and keen on carlton and club thought he may be get table and easier to trade for at the time

I reckon he's a beautiful user of the ball for a kpp.

Yep I think you might have the wrong bloke Rhys or at least Mcguane has!! About the only part of Tomlinson's game that is A Grade is his kicking otherwise he's a vanilla 3rd tall defender.

Beautiful kick.

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If the Blueprint is 38/44 players 25yo and under by 2019, then I think we are damn close.

The 6 players over 25 in 2019 might be Murphy Gibbs Kreuzer Jones Casboult Curnow and one of Boekhurst or Philips.
I don't think Casboult will be on our list after his 2 year contract expires end of 2019.

We have to realise that having 11 teens they will need time to build strength and continue their development path.
Add 8 Under 23's who showed improvement, will all need another season to gel with the developing teens and develop their game.

Not all are going to make it, but I'm confident we have at least 15 good ones.

We lost 7-8 games we led in the last with these kids, so we are bloody close, but we have to nail the next 2 draft/ trade periods, to complete the 66 game rebuild.

I don't think we will snag a great FA this year. That's OK. We have plenty of class to work with.

I think Gibbs will stay as Rockliff will be a cheaper midfield addition for Adelaide as a FA.
Kelly will come at a huge cost, in picks, but well worth it. If not, our pick 3 will get us a ripper midfielder.
The cost of Matt Kennedy if we can get him from GWS with pick 40 or 60, could be a steal. It aint going to be pick 3.

I'm thinking we will keep Gibbs and we will add 2 more midfielders for 2018. If one is Kelly, he will improve us no doubt.

I'm sure SOS has planted the seeds for a FA next year with his war chest full of $$$, and will use our 1st and 2nd draft picks to complete the rebuild.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

All good points, with one caveat: on talent quality/depth, early picks next year are far more valuable than this year. If we have to give up pick 3 this year for Kelly, it's worth serious consideration. Will undoubtedly be better than any of the midfielders we could get with pick 3, and fits the age profile. The war chest is big enough, and has thankfully been managed well enough, that we can net a big fish next year too: e.g. Lynch.

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

I suspect that if we are to get Kelly, they will be thinking about trading pick 3 + the first rounder we get from Adelaide for Gibbs (i.e. ~pick 15-18).
Perhaps a deal w Adelaide is for 1st rounder this year and 1st or 2nd rounder next year.

So, basically, we end up getting Kelly for Gibbs and a downgrade from pick 3 this year to a pick in the teens or 20s this year or next... which is a win, but not if Kelly's price causes us to lose/miss out on 2-3 other A graders down the track... so tough balancing act for SOS & Co...

Would anyone here be keen on trading pick 3 for St Kilda's 7 and 8? Losing one of the top kids but spreading the load by having two bites of the cherry?

I don't have a view as I have not looked at the draft strength this year but curious if anyone else has? St Kilda might have their eyes on a particular player...

Of course. Sign it now.

Plenty of talented mids around at those picks.

Would even consider next years first.

Would the AFL allow that trade?

3195 points in, 2234 points out.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

I'd think about a 3, 38, 56 for 7 and 8.

3195 for 2993 with the 200 points difference covered by way of the opportunity of a 3rd player.

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"A good composer does not initiate. He steals."

- Igor Stravinsky

Keep pick 3 for Rayner and send whatever we get for Gibbs to GWS for Kelly. Kennedy trade with pick 38 and we take on their salary cap dump for Griffen same as we did last year with Rhys Palmer. Instant midfield rebuild, younger age profile and the Northern Blues get another Journeyman leader.

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"Who discovered we could get milk from cows, and what did he think he was doing at the time?" Billy Connolly

1) Rayner will be gone by pick 3
2) Gibbs will most likely stay
3) There is no way we will get Kelly without trading pick 3
4) There is no way we will get Kennedy with pick 38

Other than that, I like it

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"Who discovered we could get milk from cows, and what did he think he was doing at the time?" Billy Connolly

Dreamtime on TC!

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dane's trolling again

I ask what better deal is there for Lever than Gibbs?

We'll throw Nick Graham as steak knives if need be.

Lever, Kelly in
Gibbs, Pick 3 out

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