Teamboard updated

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- Removed player(s) O'hAilpin, Austin, Cachia, Houlihan, Dare, Twomey
- Added player(s) Buckley


Future Updates
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- Additional delistings
- 2012 drafts
- Squad numbers

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

If we can stay injury free we look very good. Options and Flexibility!!


B: Touhy/AJ Jamison/Bower Laidler/OKeefe

HB: Yarran/Armfield Watson/Henderson Duigan/Davies

C: Simpson/Russell Gibbs/Curnow Scotland/Lucas

Foll: Warnock/Hampson Judd/Carrazzo Murphy/Ellard

HF: Garlett/Collins Rowe/Waite Robinson/Kerr

F: Betts/Buckley Kruezer/Mitchell Walker/White


Int: McLean Thornton Casboult McCarthy McInnes Bootsma Bray Carter Rookie(s)

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Teamboard updated

Changes
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- Added player(s) Bootsma, Rowe


Future Updates
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- 2012 rookie draft
- Squad numbers

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Bruce Gibbs says hello

Whoops! Change made.

Thanks Laguna. Good side when Gibbs can't get a game!!

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Can this side match it with the Cats and Pies??


B: Touhy Jamison Laidler
HB: Yarran Henderson Duigan Gibbs

C: Simpson Curnow Waite
Foll: Warnock Judd Murphy

HF: Garlett Rowe Walker
F: Robinson Kruezer

Int: Russell Scotland Lucas Carrazzo


Damn. How do you fit them all in?????

I also expect guys like Hampson, McCarthy, McInness, Watson, OKeefe, Kerr, Casboult to really step up next season and put on more pressure.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

no betts?

i think bower will also be in the mix next year. much fitter at this stage of pre-season and suspect with a one year deal will out to prove a point.

I doubt Waite will play on a wing either. Not nimble enough, fast enough, doesnt have the endurance and wouldnt be able push forward and back hard enough. The only advantage of playing him wing would be a couple of contested marks on the outlet per game. Hardly a reliable tactic to win games.

If i had to choose a wingman in the Carlton team and had a choice between Waite and Scotland I know who i would pick.

I think we have the list and the mindset to take it out in 2012. Collingwood have lost thier tactical advantage and the cats must drop at some stage. Injuries and dumb luck will also play a part.

I dont have an issue with Betts as a footballer. He is talented and can be a match winner. The question is can we afford a player like him in the modern game. A bit like having Fev at FF he can only fill one position and makes us very predictable. IMHO for us to get better we need more flexibility and options. With the depth we have in the midfield are we better off playing the extra mid and rotating Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, Carrazzo, Simpson, Scotland, Gibbs etc through the FP? Can they as a group produce as many if not more goals? It would certainly make us less predictable and give us options.

Just look at last years Grand finalists. ALL there small forwards spend time through the midfield and contribute in different ways. Hawthorn are the same with Rioli and Osborne. I also believe the better sides have worked him out. They play a taller more mobile defender (ala OBrien) who can cut off space, out mark, out muscle and run off the smaller player.

As for comments about Waite. I disagree. He is a pure athlete who can play anywhere.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Could you imagine Waite on the spread from stoppages or chasing oppo players on the spread? Would be a disaster playing him on the wing IMO . For ground balls and stoppage play there would be 15 players better on our list. . He would have to pay back in other ways like taking 6 contested marks from kickouts per game. Cant win finals relying on that.

He is our best forward. Cant see him playing on a wing.

.and Hawthorn and West Coast flatline...

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My crack, with a couple positions given to the guys who I think will be future regulars in the team (I hope!):

B: Duigan Jamison Watson
HB: Joseph Henderson Yarran
C: Scotland Gibbs Simpson
R: Judd Kruezer Murphy
HF: Walker Waite Mitchell
F: Betts Rowe Garlett

I/C: Laidler Robinson Warnock E: Armfield

I think the above team offers flexibility in terms of players who can fill a few positions or play different roles, which means there is also a degree of "Plan B" available if someone goes down.

Gee it was hard to cull a few players from the list!!

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"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive and then go do that. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive." - Howard Thurman

Agree with most things, including Waite. Seen him on the wing before, wasn't bad. Probably going to have to use him more forward though. What Rowe does is let our ruckmen be ruckmen without the exhausting pressure of being the key target forward. They can rest there as "3rd banana". Means we need Waite there. The fact though Waite has the ability to play KP, 3rd tall or midfielder it means, even with 3 tall forwards, including the ruckmen, the forward line doesn't lose anything in mobility.

With Betts though while he's kicking 50 goals from that spot and dropping a millions tackles with forward 50 defensive pressure he can stay there as long as he likes. We can run with all sort of theories but often the more things change the more they stay the same. We still found in contested finals footy the big big bodies that win contested footy and big, strong forwards that can take a mark still win you games. Similar if your small bloke is kicking that many and providing that much defensive pressure you've marked two of the bottom lines needed to win games of footy, goals and pressure. That small FP role is one of the most difficult to perform consistently in. Betts does it as well as anyone.

Final series this year showed us that sides with KP fowards win matches. I hope people atleast agree with this point. The perfect example, apart from the Collingwood v Hawthorn prelim was the WestCoast v Carlton game. WestCoast got their goals with so much fluency and ease because of the multiple KP's (Kennedy, Lynch, Darling & NicNat) it wasn't funny, whereas we had to work so much harder just to be able to get an opportunity. The fact we lost by just 3 points is a credit to the team and it's work rate but we need to help ourselves and to win a flag we need atleast 3 KP forward targets, ala previous premiers.

My team is;
Duigen Jamison Laidler
Russell Bower Yarran
Gibbs Robinson Simpson
Walker Waite Gartlett
Kruezer Henderson Betts
Warnock Judd Murphy
Scotland Carrazzo Curnow
Sub: Touye / Lucas

I know people are going to disagree but if we want to win the premiership - we need multiple big forwards. The advantage we have with ours is they are flexible and athletic!

Duigan Jamison Laidler
Tuohy Henderson Yarran
Simpson Murphy Scotland
Gibbs Waite Garlett
Walker Rowe Gibbs
Kreuzer Judd Robinson
Warnock Carrazzo Curnow Lucas/Russell/Joseph/Ellard

Duigan Jamison Laidler
Tuohy Henderson Yarran
Simpson Murphy Scotland
Gibbs Rowe Garlett
Walker Waite Betts

Warnock Judd Robinson

Kreuzer Carrazzo Collins Lucas

Armfield Jamison Thornton
Laidler Henderson Duigan
Simpson Gibbs Scotland
Waite Rowe Garlett
Kreuzer Walker Betts

R: Warnock Judd Murphy

I: Yarran Carrazzo Robinson Russell


Apologies : Hampson Touy Lucas



Although I was not happy with the recruitment of Rowe ... we have him now and he has got good hands so I would start the season with him at CHF. Long term I reckon Mitchell will be the answer.

I have put Yarran on the Interchange because of Ratten's comments of running him through the midfield. Also I think Russell needs to start in the team and give him the chance to return to 2010 form. Thornton gets a crack because of his versatility and the good form he showed at the end of last year. Could be swapped with Waite during a game.

I guess the only other debatable ones would be Armfield and Carrazzo. Carrazzo is a favourite of Rattens and I think he has improved his disposal enough to maintain his position. I like Armfield ... he has pace and he takes them on.

This is a big year for Kreuzer ... he really has to have a good season.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

Why?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

I quite liked AJ's end to 2011. Played with a lot more freedom and did a bunch of things i didnt know he had in him.

Id be keen to get him into the 22 for the first few rounds. Could be suprise packet.

I think Carlton need him to play well ... we are a much better side when he does. The problem is (and I know he has just got over a major injury) he was down on form except for the first couple of games he played this year.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!