Kenny. You are right. But Carlton supporters are nervous for a reason.

I just hope that Vossy does like and give opportunity to the younger players.

Because my perception is that he is going to sell the farm for older name players looking for a quick fix.

I dont mind trading Kennedy, Owies, Young as long as what comes back is worth it, and not some old injury prone players nearing retirement. And we have KPP cover to replace young and we are not only relying on Sam Durdin.

Just think if Weitering goes down - then what.

if we keep harry, we need more from him and his 1 mil a year in cap... so, we send him back to FB? he's athletic enough to do it better than rory lobb, imo.

Rotate Harry in the ruck
Charlie to CHB

No enough of trying to make a specialist positional player fit in another area. This is our problem.

If we did move Harry and Charlie, then who will kick goals ?

i think charlie stays forward no matter what. tdk hopefully has a full year of health and sos too. there's ruck sorted.

i think harry could go back and do a job.

Ben does some good things down back, but he has some absolute howlers as well, Harry would be much the same IMO.
How many times have we seen Harry running into an open goal only to Keystone Cops it? Now swap that to the other end of the ground!

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Being told they're free to look elsewhere doesn't necessarily mean they end up leaving anyway.

Owies can't be a surprise, he'd fit in well with all the other shithead smalls at Collingwood too.

I like Kennedy but he wants to be an inside mid and that's something we don't need.

Not sure anyone would pay much for Lewis Young.

Agreed, I read it as "Look, you might not get as many opportunities to play going forward so you're welcome to look for opportunities elsewhere"




Be kinda funny if he ends up at the club whose supporters are the most derisive at the way he loves to celebrate a goal.




I like Kennedy too for his versatility, but he's behind Cripps and Hewitt who are both better.




I feel for Young, he has the physical attributes to be a solid player but there's just something missing in his application.

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We have never been this ruthless before. We need to move with the times. And it might be what makes us as a club.

Lets wait and see.

I love that we are being ruthless assuming that is what we are doing - we will be able to tell once we know who is coming the other way.
Hewett is a better mid than Kennedy. Kennedy is more versatile. But if we are to be the top line team we think we can be, there’s room for only one (once we get someone reliable up forward who is a better forward than Kennedy).
I don’t think broadcasting this will have any impact on the price they attract - none of them are stars and no team will hand over first or probably even second rounders for any of them.
I’d stick with Cerra because I think his upside is big (when fit he was excellent) AND I don’t think we will get anything higher than a 2nd rounder for him.
I’m happy to go for Houston but don’t want to give up pick 11 unless we bring in another top 15 pick.


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100% agree. harry would be the break glass option in the emergency of losing weiters. not a full time gig.

haynes will be good insurance, but mcgovern is such a liability at the back, imo. if we go all out to get houston, we should march mcgovern out the door and replace him with someone who doesn't mind being physical.

maybe one of the hawks kids will be available for cheap? they have frost already and are about to add barass and battle. weddle, scrimshaw and missiliy are already there which is a big glut of key defenders.

willie mcCabe, ethan phillips, grainger-barass and even CJ could all be bought from them?

If I was going all in on a player it would be TDK's kid brother .

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yup.

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Charlie stays forward no matter what? I seem to remember he has helped us out beautifully as an interceptor down back…I think he would be much more creative than Harry down back…can just see him kicking it long and direct into the leading hands of Harry and Ashton.

Yes to that

I think we are in a good position to give top4 a real crack in 26' /27' . Just need to be brave with the list which we appear to be.
Add players that are durable , skilled and can run...and run some more in every position we think we can. Change the mix. Have backups ready to go.
Recruit for a modern system.

Unfortunately I think Kennedy’s papers were stamped when we recruited Hewett. He’s one of my favourite players but we have too many of the same. And if we need Kennedy to play like he did this season filling gaps all over the park then we are stuffed.

i don't disagree charles is better - problem is harry and his kicking for goal. it's rock, paper scissors when he lines them up. charlie is more assured?

kennedy revealed as much in his exit interview, if the reports are true. he went on record to say he wants to be an inside mid and the club said if that's your wish, we allow you to speak to other clubs and if you find that, we're okay with it.

This is what I said and couldn't believe we didn't do in the 2019 draft, instead we took an injured (ACL) Kemp.