We're a club bereft of talented KP players, FFS let's see if he shows anything towards the end of the season before you'd even contemplate moving him on.

I'd delist him and re draft him as a rookie for next year.
Give the lad a full, hopefully uninterrupted pre season and extended time on the park to prove himself.

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Who has been elevated to compensate for Judd's retirement?

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

No one; you don't elevate players until you want to select them for the senior side, because it affects your TPP.

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I still read 'mixed messages' in all of that.

Carlton have a tendency to talk their way out of making 'tough' decisions by designating each draft a 'weak draft' and yet other clubs make the most of it. You can't find the right players if you aren't looking for them. Carlton look for 'stock' players because they have a hard time visualizing how certain kids will develop with a bit of time and effort put in to them. If they don't dominate in a fixed position as juniors they aren't there. Even then we want to turn them into midfielders. The fact that Rogers said that at TAC Cup level they play all the best players on a HBF was telling.

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dane's trolling again

and some of those responsible are still there..........................unbelievable and disgraceful..............

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Might be up to cap now but surely next year without Judd
I presume Warnock is not contracted next year surely that frees up a bit
Doubt carrazzo will go on that's more

perhaps other players (Gibbs Murph...) are scheduled to pick up the slack ?

Everyone saying it's a weak draft.

I read a lot on how the young lads are showing improvement each weak.

Could it simply be a bunch of late bloomers? A draft riddled with smokies?

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It was telling alright, It proved once and for all that he was a f%#ing idiot.

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"Then joked and said he (Jack himself) probably wouldn't even need to play until round 2 against Collingwood."

Carlton are in a bit of a pickle. It's reportedly a shallow draft - that view has held up throughout the year and we are now deep into the U18s carnival - so clubs will be loath to cough up early picks, which is what Carlton lust for. The announcement this week that we won't trade away lots of players suggests the club acknowledge it's a shallow draft. I suspect SOS will float pick 1 (for x2 picks in the top 10 or 20) but I don't think he'll get a decent enough offer to trade it away. We're unlucky the year we bottom out its a rubbish draft, though countering that we should get some sort of win by virtue of getting one or two Father Sons at discounted rates. This is a good year to use later picks to acquire the points needed to secure decent Father Son prospects. I can also see Yarran getting the bullet but only if a rival club is prepared to part with a decent pick.

Agree on Yarran, amazing that the most possessions he has ever had in a game is 27, the gun HBF's get plus 30 every second week. He just doesn't put the effort in, he should be getting heaps more easy receives and then doing the damage by foot but he is too lazy and unfit.

We would have been close to last, if not last, for possessions in the league so maybe now that we're gathering 380+ possessions he might get a few more receives.

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20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

The whole "this is a weak draft" argument always worries me. I still remember before the 2005 draft there was a majority school of thought that the draft didn't go beyond pick 10. Plenty of good footballers taken after number 10 in that draft. Then 2006 was meant to be the bees knees. There were some good picks taken after 10 (Robbie Gray), but if you stack the two drafts next to each other I think you'd find 2005 comes out ahead in terms of overall quality.

I never buy the weak draft argument. If the club had any capability in recruiting it would back itself to find a gem.

weak draft?

its been a weak draft for the last 10 years hasnt it?

in all seriousness, many clubs have an ability to pick up and decent talent across the years regardless of the 'weak' or 'strong' label thrown around.

take each year as it comes and take it on,

Edited for accuracy.

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Just a question - and forgive me if its come up in pages prior.......

With Warnock almost certain to be delisted and Judd's retirement, doesn't that free up around $1million????
Could we make a play for say Dangerfield with some of that money (Say, $800k per year)?

Im not saying we MUST go out and get him, nor am i looking at him as a 'Judd' replacement (meaning, he will bring us a premiership) but from what I'm hearing, he is very likely to leave Adelaide.......... why not have a go???

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1. given where the team is, its a waste of money
2. if kreuzer goes FA, we lose that pick

See - i disagree somewhat.

YES, we have a lot of work to do to our list, however Dangerfield is only 25 so easily has a good 5,6 maybe 7 years in him and he is quality. Put him alongside Murphy, Gibbs and Crips and that's a nice midfield right there.

Again, our list does need working and tweaking, but i'll be stuffed if i believe we gonna be a bottom 4 side for the next 3-5 years.


But, you are probably right in the fact that whilst he would be a good addition, he probably isn't the player we need. We need more of a KPP.

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