No, only since "criterion" stopped being a word.

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That's right Malthouse had 2 seasons and 9 games to rebuild a list. I am not sure you ever openly faced the mortgage the Ratten years put on our future. It was Pagan who developed Fevola, Gibbs, Murphy, despite his failures. Then Malthouse took over a basket case and at least you can see that over the two years Cripps, Buckley, Holman, Casboult et al learnt something. Malthouse has personality faults and should have played the kids 6 weeks earlier but by and large he left the place in a better state than what he found it. And if you value culture and honesty, it was Malthouse who went to the board and said get real, we have a weak list. It was Malthouse who put a line in the sand with Garlett and Robinson for lieing to the Coach. I support those decisions. Not to Mention the difficulty in motivating a group after the president and ceo said everyone is up for trade. Media performances & personality are secondary to coaching ability in my assessment of the coach. I am not putting a line through Barker but I was really disappointed in our performance against Fremantle.
He was our forward coach, he played forward, we are scoring less than 10 goals a game. Our forwards didn't lead. The method and the process is everything when you are going through a development phase. Barker is a good team guy but maybe he is too simplistic, maybe he isn't a great development coach. The bottom line is you see things in such simple terms that everything is based on personalities and simple one liners like "writing off Barker after 6 games". I won't judge any coach that we employ on a win loss basis while we are building the foundation but I will be skeptical when there are huge gaps in the way we play such as the basics of leading, tackling, defending and disposal efficiency. I just think there is a lot of feel good factor and it is only going to get harder from here.

Hmmmmm not sure about that


Agree, but he got paid a lot to teach them


Agree with this.


But I thought TC has already proclaimed Barker as the new coach... after the win against Port ....


That's the Carlton way !

I must have been. But at least when i wake up i haven't lost my intelligence or courtesy

Also 6 presidents and 4 factions later.

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Barker was our defensive coach.

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I thought he did both ?

Forward coach first. Went to the backline when we lost Gavin Brown (which I still maintain was a massive mistake).

Obviously Brown saw the writing on the wall.

brilliant, problem solved obviously nothing to worry about, Carlton has this well in hand.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Another blanket one line statement absent any facts. Go write for the Herald Sun

and how those Boards transitioned

and what we look for in a Board

and how we've gone wrong with our Boards in the past.

I agree things are looking better and all my fingers are crossed...and if we go through the process and if we do not trade - I couldn't give a flying fig who we could get, keep the @#$%&! picks as a matter of principle, just once, keep the @#$%&! picks - and if we can somehow work out what is Carlton's brand? It's style? It's leadership group and so on and so forth. Things are sounding better but lets just see shall we? 'Cos recent history says we may change boards but we don't change direction (except the coach thing... and so we arrive back at the first point.)

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

I'm just saying, if there was a magic bullet, we would have found it by now.

Just need to prune, and analyse and ask questions and drive change. The board seem to be with that program now, despite all the uproar around the time of Malthouse's sacking.

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How does sacking an under performing staff member who has been given 2 3 or even 5 years to prove their worth equate to the board not doing their job properly.
Sure the process of appointment might be wrong but these appointments had a proven track record.

The Board would have failed more if they had kept Pagan Ratten and Malthouse

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You talk about lack of facts, everything you say is just blatantly wrong no one can be F!@#$% arguing your micky love post but here is some quick revision
I’m not one to support Ratten but we finished on 11 wins with a decimated list when ratten was sacked and played finals three years running before that, hardly basket case
micky finished with us on the bottom how is that in better shape
how did he develop the kids? By berating them in public, by playing them in 1 quarter then dropping them, by honing their skills with a dysfunctional game plan ( isn’t it funny how they all improved after he left)
micky told us we needed a rebuild after playing finals, but then again micky said a lot of things that had no merit to his benefit
leading, tackling, defending, disposal efficiency all improved when micky was canned
assistants are under the instructions of the senior coach, he makes the final decisions not the line coach’s, how hard is that to understand
we had no f!@#$^&* forwards while the mother was there and no one to kick to up the ground, how do you kick a winning score

we don’t know the answer to barker just yet but I do know micky made an absolute mess of us while he was here

On cue !

I don't think that's fair at all. The piece I highlighted above is quite rational and makes a lot of sense. IMO Michael Jezz is asking some legimate questions.

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