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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:13 pm 
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Just went to Mick's book signing on Lygon St. Thought about asking him about our ruck setup, in the end just opted to get really nervous & say "thank you" 2047 times


i went to mick's (and christi's) book signing in hobart and have to say that the five minutes i had chatting to them both has convinced me more than ever that he's the man for us (and christi will barrack for the blues).

and forget about him supposedly having no sense of humour - laughed his head off when i presented the book for signing (for my brother-in-law Murray who is a pies supporter). see below copy of the index page - christi wrote "hope it's true" in response to my suggestion for the next chapter.

hopefully this works


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:58 pm 
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Those complaining about him, read his new book. He is a very passionate man, who really believes and stands by family and also really values someones character. Wears his heart on his sleeve and is very sensitive, which is why he shows his emotion so much.

I am very looking forward to what he can bring to Carlton.

Why do some of you have to be so negative. You want Ratten, why ? cause he is a past Carlton champion.

Malthouse may not have won as many premierships as you thought he would, but read his book and you will see what he was up against, and also the success he did bring to the organisations he worked with, you understand him as a person a lot more, rather than the snippets you see before or after a game..


DG, I was well and truly in the "keep Ratts" camp and since you ask "Why" I will tell you ...

Firstly Ratts win/loss ratio compares favourably with other coaches for the equivalent period of their career. I've heard many knowledge people comment favourably about his tactical nous and understanding of the game. It appears his weakness was his ability to be authoritarian. Not sure about that, but I do think that he improved each year in the job at would have been at his best at the helm in 2013. Lastly we'd just signed him and his assistants 12 months earlier. I'd prefer the club honour such a new contract and show some consistency.

Now he's gone though I'll adjust. I like the idea of players hearing a different message. It's not that they'll forget what they learnt from Ratts, just augment it with new knowledge. The "favourites" ledger will be wiped clean. Good. Players that haven't performed up to our expectations, (I'm talking about you Bryce), will get another go under a new mentor.

If nothing else it makes season 2013 more interesting. Bring it on.
(but heaven help MM if Richmond take us Rnd 1 :wink: ).


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:20 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
Those complaining about him, read his new book. He is a very passionate man, who really believes and stands by family and also really values someones character. Wears his heart on his sleeve and is very sensitive, which is why he shows his emotion so much.

I am very looking forward to what he can bring to Carlton.

Why do some of you have to be so negative. You want Ratten, why ? cause he is a past Carlton champion.

Malthouse may not have won as many premierships as you thought he would, but read his book and you will see what he was up against, and also the success he did bring to the organisations he worked with, you understand him as a person a lot more, rather than the snippets you see before or after a game..


DG, I was well and truly in the "keep Ratts" camp and since you ask "Why" I will tell you ...

Firstly Ratts win/loss ratio compares favourably with other coaches for the equivalent period of their career. I've heard many knowledge people comment favourably about his tactical nous and understanding of the game. It appears his weakness was his ability to be authoritarian. Not sure about that, but I do think that he improved each year in the job at would have been at his best at the helm in 2013. Lastly we'd just signed him and his assistants 12 months earlier. I'd prefer the club honour such a new contract and show some consistency.

Now he's gone though I'll adjust. I like the idea of players hearing a different message. It's not that they'll forget what they learnt from Ratts, just augment it with new knowledge. The "favourites" ledger will be wiped clean. Good. Players that haven't performed up to our expectations, (I'm talking about you Bryce), will get another go under a new mentor.

If nothing else it makes season 2013 more interesting. Bring it on.
(but heaven help MM if Richmond take us Rnd 1 :wink: ).


My sentiments exactly. :clap:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:34 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
Those complaining about him, read his new book. He is a very passionate man, who really believes and stands by family and also really values someones character. Wears his heart on his sleeve and is very sensitive, which is why he shows his emotion so much.

I am very looking forward to what he can bring to Carlton.

Why do some of you have to be so negative. You want Ratten, why ? cause he is a past Carlton champion.

Malthouse may not have won as many premierships as you thought he would, but read his book and you will see what he was up against, and also the success he did bring to the organisations he worked with, you understand him as a person a lot more, rather than the snippets you see before or after a game..


You're proposing that the people who weren't in favour of Malthouse must be Ratten supporters.
Thats not necessarily so.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:04 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
Those complaining about him, read his new book. He is a very passionate man, who really believes and stands by family and also really values someones character. Wears his heart on his sleeve and is very sensitive, which is why he shows his emotion so much.

I am very looking forward to what he can bring to Carlton.

Why do some of you have to be so negative. You want Ratten, why ? cause he is a past Carlton champion.

Malthouse may not have won as many premierships as you thought he would, but read his book and you will see what he was up against, and also the success he did bring to the organisations he worked with, you understand him as a person a lot more, rather than the snippets you see before or after a game..


Hopefully this isn't pointing to me because I have no doubt Malthouse will do ok. That is the reason why I keep highlighting the fact that I expect us to challenge in 2013. Malthouse will get us up and running and I would be disappointed if he didn't and expect everyone to demand the same. I also don't like the idea of everyone throwing mud at Ratten continuously because to me Ratten can coach and I really hope he gets an opportunity elsewhere shortly.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:56 pm 
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As for Ratten, I think he'd have copped the same as Matthew Knights did at Essendon* had he not been a son of the Navy Blue.


I completely agree. We all loved Ratts as a player. But he just wasn't good enough, or ready, to coach an AFL club in the 21st century.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:00 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Drewgirl wrote:
Those complaining about him, read his new book. He is a very passionate man, who really believes and stands by family and also really values someones character. Wears his heart on his sleeve and is very sensitive, which is why he shows his emotion so much.

I am very looking forward to what he can bring to Carlton.

Why do some of you have to be so negative. You want Ratten, why ? cause he is a past Carlton champion.

Malthouse may not have won as many premierships as you thought he would, but read his book and you will see what he was up against, and also the success he did bring to the organisations he worked with, you understand him as a person a lot more, rather than the snippets you see before or after a game..


Hopefully this isn't pointing to me because I have no doubt Malthouse will do ok. That is the reason why I keep highlighting the fact that I expect us to challenge in 2013. Malthouse will get us up and running and I would be disappointed if he didn't and expect everyone to demand the same. I also don't like the idea of everyone throwing mud at Ratten continuously because to me Ratten can coach and I really hope he gets an opportunity elsewhere shortly.

I do too. Hopefully Collingwood or Essendon*....

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:06 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:34 am 
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Drewgirl wrote:
Those complaining about him, read his new book. He is a very passionate man, who really believes and stands by family and also really values someones character. Wears his heart on his sleeve and is very sensitive, which is why he shows his emotion so much.

I am very looking forward to what he can bring to Carlton.

Why do some of you have to be so negative. You want Ratten, why ? cause he is a past Carlton champion.

Malthouse may not have won as many premierships as you thought he would, but read his book and you will see what he was up against, and also the success he did bring to the organisations he worked with, you understand him as a person a lot more, rather than the snippets you see before or after a game..


DG, I was well and truly in the "keep Ratts" camp and since you ask "Why" I will tell you ...

Firstly Ratts win/loss ratio compares favourably with other coaches for the equivalent period of their career. The club improved steadily under him up until 2012 and I believe that that blip can be explained by injuries. I've heard many knowledgeable people comment favourably about his tactical nous and understanding of the game. It has been suggested that his weakness was his ability to be authoritarian. Not sure about that, but I do think that he improved each year in the job at would have been at his best at the helm in 2013. Lastly we'd just signed him and his assistants 12 months earlier. I'd prefer the club honour such a new contract and show some consistency.

Now he's gone though I'll adjust. I like the idea of players hearing a different message. It's not that they'll forget what they learnt from Ratts, just augment it with new knowledge. The "favourites" ledger will be wiped clean. Good. Players that haven't performed up to our expectations, (I'm talking about you Bryce), will get another go under a new mentor and may find something.

If nothing else it makes season 2013 more interesting. Bring it on.
(but heaven help MM if Richmond take us Rnd 1 :wink: ).

PS - Not sure I'd take too much notice about what people write about themselves in books.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:52 pm 
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A double-post with a time lag.
Not sure how I managed that particular piece of dumbness. :roll:


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:09 pm 
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17. MM's final comment was he will not be starting until 01 November when he will get down to business.


So is he starting tomorrow or not?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:20 pm 
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Mick was on Perth radio tonight and said he was supposed to start tomorrow but now it will be Monday and off to Arizona on Friday...

Hope the book sales are good :?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:38 am 
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Thanks for the update.

What a slakcer!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:45 am 
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A sick leave form handed in on his first two days.....is Mick trying to re-make himself into a Gen Y now?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:48 am 
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Mick was on Perth radio tonight and said he was supposed to start tomorrow but now it will be Monday and off to Arizona on Friday...

Hope the book sales are good :?


Some meditation and deep breathing BV, we'll get through this together.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:52 am 
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He's doing a crap job of winning us doubters over. :smoking:
Not expecting much at all from 2013, but I love being pleasantly surprised.

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Well that was an anti-climax

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Thanks for the update.

What a slakcer!


:lol:

Who's gonna start the Slakc Malthouse thread?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:24 am 
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I'm pretty sure they can organise beep tests without Mick around.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:34 am 
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I'm pretty sure they can organise beep tests without Mick around.


Yeah, but they'll just be reactionary beeps, with no plan B.

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