phsyco don't you think we should go through a process?

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Between our dreams and actions lies this world

Yes.

We want 17. At all costs.

The game is about winning flags. Not being likeable.

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"He was found guilty in June 2008 of assault with intent to cause bodily harm, an offence which carries a maximum penalty of 20 years jail."
And people are making his return to footy somewhat of a fairytale?

Ratts says hello ; p

Why were Collingwood so keen to not have him as senior coach if he is so good?

Maybe they could see the writing on the wall....that he is no longer up to it?

For once can't this club do things properly?

Why can't Malthouse go through the interview process if he wants the job so badly - if he comes out as the number 1 candidate then fair enough he can have the job.

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To give yourself the best chance you want to have the best of everything...how do we know there aren't assistants out there at the moment who may be better than Malthouse?

Malthouse should put himself through the interview process like the rest of them - if he is willing to do that and comes out #1 then fair enough.

But too often this club doesn't go through a proper process....get the old Carlton chequebook out - this club thinks it is still the VFL.

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

Who's doing the interviewing process though?

The football people on the board - Sticks Kernahan and Bear Gleeson? I wouldn't trust them to interview for my PA.

Swann? I don't have a heap of confidence in him either.

To be honest, I'd love to borrow Brian Cook for a month, and get him to do it. But that isn't going to happen.

I'm shit-scared of the club attempting to follow a process, when the most important part of following a process is the experience, intelligence, and instincts of those making the decisions.

What if the interview panel was Matthews, Walls, Fitzpatrick or other suitable candidates?

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I hope Essendon* folds.

..lookit, Malty is 58/9.. ..easily still capable of coaching.. ..just 2 years ago he had a cutting edge gameplan that took them to a GF victory.. ..the following years others learnt from it, but he was still good enough to be a top team and make the GF.. ..this year, the young Buckley has shown some good signs, and is a polished media performer.. ..but the team's gone backwards in pretty much every stat, is not a clear cut contender, and could very well miss the granny..

..bottom line, IF eddie was not running the pies, and if he didn't have a love for Bucks.. ..or likewise, if Bucks had no urge to be a senior coach, Malty would still be coaching the pies.. ..make no mistake..

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Chris Scott says Hello.

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Yep

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Yeah I do agree with this. It's an inescapable fact, Malthouse would have just coached out his days and left on his terms, probably in a year or two's time.

It is why Malthouse feels like he has unfinished business. Going out on his terms.

Sums up my thoughts on the whole thing.

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#DonTheStash

Looks like least your scepticism extends to the new regime as well Synners.

Looks like a quick fix to appease the fragile ego's of the board to me.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

the time for an unproven coach was 5 to 3 years ago.... even 2 years ago

we stayed with ratts....

we have a terrible culture..... and by the clubs own admission they dont believe we can fix our terribe culture enough to bring in an unproven.

MM at least will have a vission on what needs to happen.

And he will understand this footy club better than most candidates.

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Yes. Interesting comments by Maclure on that as well.

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Just watched Blue Print. Big fan of Maclure. Should be on the Board?

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TC suffers from the social media illness - the death of respect and constructive discourse by keyboard.

I think there is a risk with whoever you appoint as coach, as well as a risk with keeping Ratten. It's part of the game, nothing is guaranteed. And we could get the best coach in the land, but the recruiting might cost us, or injuries. Footy is full of risk.

No doubt the Club's processes have been lacking ever since process became a necessity in football. The decision to appoint Ratten, when he had one year's experience as an assistant at Melbourne, and a few years at Norwood in the Eastern Football League (!), and then surround him with Lappin, Montgomery and Harvey, NONE of whom had any experience as an assistant coach, is something that the board should have resigned over. If that had happened in the corporate world, they would not have survived, simple as that. And yes, the sacking of Brittain for Pagan, the reappointment of Ratten last year...all decisions that have come back to bight the Club on the bum. Interesting to think who the common denominator is - but that's a discussion for the Sticks thread.

I have no doubt (and have posted on here several times over the last 4 or 5 years) that the problem at Carlton starts at the very top - the President and board. However, we're talking about the coach here.

I agree with ThePsychologist that we need a hard nosed bastard to come in and demand that all section of the club do things the right way. I posted elsewhere that Ferguson has never been particularly liked by his players. When Chelsea won the EPL, Mourinho walked around to congratulate his players, shaking their hands. Not one of them looked him in the eye. Not one. There was no love in that relationship. Respect, yes. Fear, certainly. But no love. I'm not saying this is what we need, but we do need someone who can walk in from day 1 and insist 'its my way or the highway'. And give the Club the bloody good shake up it needs, from President down.

Can a first up coach do this? Maybe, but doubtful. Changing the culture of a club is bloody hard work, and takes time. What we do know is that Malthouse (and Roos and Matthews and Thompson) could absolutely do that. Only one of those is available of course. Could they coach a team in the right way gameplan wise to win a flag? Who knows, but we know they've done it before. A first-up coach would have much more difficulty changing the culture, and may or may not have the ability to coach the team to a flag. So while there is risk with any coach, I think there is less with Malthouse. He's won flags before, at 2 clubs. He's rebuilt and energised clubs and changed the culture, so we know he can do that. Would he be doing it for the right reasons? We don't know. But he has a proven track record of doing exactly what we need to happen at our Club, and that's the bottom line. And that's why he's worth a million a year.

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Mens sana in corpore sano.

Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

The culture won't change given the clubs financial position.

There is no incentive for the cash providers to reduce the debt because they lose their influence.

So it's a club united behind MM?

For how long?

The right coach is the right coach. I don't agree that there should ever be a cut off point.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Talks in generalisations but he is entertaining.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

The problem is the leadership of this club knows not what to do and keeps looking elsewhere for answers...

Which is what alot of people have been saying all along.

Its obvious now....... i think!!!

Rudderless...

We will become competitive in the league with a new coach....

But we sure as hell are going to be left behind in the big club stakes.

Regime change is necessary.... and it needs to be done now

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