Look at Collingwood.

Have brought in Lynch, Young, Pick 17 & 19.

All they have lost is Wellingham & Dawes who are easily replaced and sold at the height of their value.

More opportunity will be given to Paine, Seedsman, Elliot, Witt, Mooney, William & Yagamoor.

Their core best 22-25 is still there, they have improved their list, bought in some more A grade talent (vital) and have not hurt their opportunity at a premiership in 2013. If anything they have improved their "window".

Explain why?

Because we lose vital players and we lose depth, and we bring in a complete spud in Jessie White.
White is a considerably worse footballer than Joseph.

Yep. Let's just say for example we trade:

Warnock for First round pick
Jamison for First round pick
Garlett for Second round pick
Duigan to PA for Jacobs
Trade second round pick for Jesse White

Delist Curnow, Kerr, Russell, Thornton, Bower & Joseph.

The players we trade are easily covered by our list and gone at the height of their value. We then have 3 picks in the first round and add a good young on baller in Jacobs and a forward/ruck back up in White.

We still have Casboult, Watson, Buckley, Dale, Lucas, Bootsma, Gibbs, White, Yarran, McCarthy, Mitchell, McInnes, OKeefe which I expect most to step up in 2013 plus some more exciting young "A" grade talent (eg. Stringer, Membrey & Colquhoun).

Our core best 22-25 is still there.

Is that list improvement?

Jamison is vital, and given our history of ruck injuries, so is Warnock. I don't want our flag hopes resting solely on Kreuzer's fitness.

Sure Duigan is replaceable, however given the dearth of leadership at our club, I think he is worth more to our list than what we could gain in a trade.

I'll have to disagree re: Jamison. At his best he is good but injury prone and getting older. .

Why would someone gives us a first rounder for an injury prone defender who you dont rate?

I'll have to disagree re: Jamison. At his best he is good but injury prone and getting older. White was very good late in the year and Henderson & Watson supported by Laidler & McInness is a good mix and IMO doesnt lose anything.

Warnock is the key injury worry in the ruck, he played 5 games this year and 58 in 6 seasons. We still have Kruezer, Hampson supported by Casboult, Rowe and White and recruit a mature aged "rookie" player like Seaby/Graham as a back up in case of injury and maybe a young "Sam Jacobs".

Duigan is 28 but IMO is not in our best 22. Guys like Murphy, Henderson, Carrazzo will step up and support Judd as leaders under MM.

You don't know until you ask.

Jamison is vital, and given our history of ruck injuries, so is Warnock. I don't want our flag hopes resting solely on Kreuzer's fitness.

Sure Duigan is replaceable, however given the dearth of leadership at our club, I think he is worth more to our list than what we could gain in a trade.

And sometimes, asking the question flowers your list, which is exactly what happened when Crazy Vossy asked the question of Bradshaw and Rishcitelli.

There is so much wrong in this post.
Firstly, they don't yet have Young, and it's now looking like they won't take him.
Wellingham and Dawes out does actually weaken their list. Rather than improving their window, which is now shut, they have tried to go for a quick 2nd window.

I think the Pies have done very well out of this trade period, however, their list is in a different position to ours.

And sometimes, asking the question flowers your list, which is exactly what happened when Crazy Vossy asked the question of Bradshaw and Rishcitelli.

I'll have to disagree re: Jamison. At his best he is good but injury prone and getting older. White was very good late in the year and Henderson & Watson supported by Laidler & McInness is a good mix and IMO doesnt lose anything.

Warnock is the key injury worry in the ruck, he played 5 games this year and 58 in 6 seasons. We still have Kruezer, Hampson supported by Casboult, Rowe and White and recruit a mature aged "rookie" player like Seaby/Graham as a back up in case of injury and maybe a young "Sam Jacobs".

Duigan is 28 but IMO is not in our best 22. Guys like Murphy, Henderson, Carrazzo will step up and support Judd as leaders under MM.

There is so much wrong in this post.
Firstly, they don't yet have Young, and it's now looking like they won't take him.

Hmmmmm

Agree with the comments that Collingwood got overs for Wellingdog. Sheeet ... now I'll have hope he plays well.