Don't go for that "logic" sorry. If paying out Jones is an option I'd rather do it now, and if it means another year for a youngster who may have more upside (e.g Foster or Rainbow) I'd much rather do that than hang on to Jones, we know what we get from him.

I was thinking if we don't have to count the Walker and Jamison contracts in the 2017 cap we could do something useful with it, like pay out Jones/Gorringe/someone else or frontload some other contracts to free up more money in 2018 or beyond. Hence my original question.

I expect that they will both have negotiated pay-outs. Walker retired due to injury, so we'll be partially compensated through insurance. Anyone who thinks that their 'contract' for next year is what they'll be paid out doesn't understand how contracts work.

so enlighten us

Please

Good question by AK43, please tell us Bluechampion.

Surely Walker & Jamo's wage will have to be included in our salary cap.

Not if they're legitimately injured and unable to go on, surely ?

Surely the AFL are due to throw us a bone.

Fair enough, that makes sense.

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The way contracts are reported is somewhat erroneous. A player usually earns x amount if they achieve conditions a, b and c.

For example, a base contract is worth x amount, but increases if the player plays senior footy and gets match payments. Just as they might receive a bonus payment for finishing as a B&F winner or all-Australian. Older player sometimes have trigger clauses; play a certain number of games, or at a certain level and trigger another year.

We usually hear ball-park figures of the maximum a player might earn per-year, not what they actually earn.

Thank you.

So what were Walker's and Jamo's minimum payments for next year?

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Jamison, walker, smith, whiley, dick, tutt
That is 6 which covers 5 draft picks plus 1 player from another club.

I suggest any other exits will be part of a trade. A player for a player or pick

Plus Wood off the
It is highly unlikely Carlton will delist the likes of Graham, Everett, Buckley, Jones, Gorringe or Bokehurst. Trade yes but delist, I doubt it

As far as I'm aware the contracts counts in next years salary cap as in Buddy's salary is included in Sydney's cap for 10yrs regardless of whether he retires or not that's been discussed in the media for a couple of years.

I would have thought they'd negotiate a reduction in what is due to the player, because of their injuries, and then ask that the payments be spread in a way (ie: how it is spread over the 2 years) that benefits the club (free up space next year) and the player (tax purposes, perhaps?).

So, could be something like this...

Walker was originally due $400k this year and next year, but will now get $600k total, all in this year, so this means we save $400k next year.

But I am not an accountant nor a player manager so am only speculating and could be well off in my thoughts.

We may not have room in the cap as I would HOPE we'd be frontloading all our good palyers contracts.
- Docherty
- Cripps
- Gibbs
- Murphy
- Kreuzer

That way, we pay them nothing at the end of their contracts and we can grab some decent players via free agency. Then it all evens out.

Of course they will.

Walker would have been on the veterans list so not all is included anyway. Not sure about Jamo, cant remember how many years he has been at the club and not sure if being on the rookie list counts.

Add DVR & Foster to the delist. Wont get anything for Gorringe....

Why would we have to pay jamo and walker anything? If they have retired it means they have walked away from the contract. Doesn't make sense for us to pay them otherwise couldn't any player sign a massive contract then retire and still get paid?

Also I've Been told from a reliable source Tom Mitchell to Carlton is all but a done deal

Keep us informed on Mitchell. For what price as well?

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