Don't agree with that. Not one of us know for sure. We have opinions but I'm sure you have been wrong before. I know I have.

Being the most successful coach since 2001 isn't saying a lot. People in the industry and who were close to Ratten have mixed views. Personally I believe Ratten along with Hughes (and the club) botched the perfect chance for a Premiership and build a successful era. We had Judd in his prime, a heap of good picks but we played one way football when on it's day looked great but IMO was never going to get us to a flag. Then the club went for its usual quick fix and appointed Malthouse. I for one was happy as I thought he could change a lot of things that needed changing. Unfortunately his ego and insecurity got in the way. I really believe that when Pagan & Malthouse arrived they couldn't believe what a basket case we really were.

I am just hoping now that we seeing a process in coach selection and finally having a list manager things will change. I hope because at the moment as a supporter that's all I have.

As for peoples opinions everyone is allowed to have them, right or wrong. How about everyone show a bit of respect? Having read your posts I know you are better than that.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

7 news reported club would like coach appointed around start of september.

any book tours scheduled?

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

10 news saying we've spoken to Simon Lloyd twice.

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The problem with Socialism is, you eventually run out of other people's money.

In other news, commuters would like trains to run on time.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

.....can't be a serious contender.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

You never know what the assistants have to offer until its on display. Its a case of whether our committee is good enough to find the hidden talent.

Your post did get me thinking about Mitchell and Hodge though. Its clear we need a major culture shift in our playing group. Judd was a leader by example, and the rest of our list have had lessons from Whitnall and Stevens passed down. I think Murphy is showing more now Malthouse has gone, but we still lack basic leadership.

Our coaching panel need to be able to set an example to the playing group. Need to be prepared to tell it like it is.

If we can't find the right senior coach out of Lloyd, Bolton, Dew, Nicks etc could we look at a Melbourne type setup where we have a former senior coach mentor a recently retired player who doesn't have experience coaching.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

is this really what you want?

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Come to Carlton Brendon and we'll wipe that smile of your face.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Yes- we definitely should not close the window on that one

Dew please.

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dane's trolling again

On 360, Whateley said Bolton is in the picture as much as Lloyd is.

Robbo thinks Barks has the job

Bit racist.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

AFTER 1st PRE SEASON at IKON.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

My two bits.

Carlton failed when Pagan was the coach - sacked the coach. How much was Pagan's fault, how much the Board's? - Pagan is gone Board remains...

Carlton failed when Ratten was the coach - sacked the coach. How much was Ratten's fault, how much the Board's? - Ratten is gone Board remains...

Carlton failed when Malthouse was coach - sacked the coach. How much was Malthouse's fault, how much the Board's? - Malthouse is gone Board remains...

we keep arguing about the various coaches but really, the thread is there and it isn't the coach. Good luck for the new bloke, I give him three years and then the knives will start again and I bet... just bet... the Board will remain...

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Well yes. If you dont win a premiership thats a fail under your criteria. Using that criteria many other clubs failed over this period and moved their coaches on. So what is your point? That we are somehow worse than those other clubs? How?

Have you been asleep for 12 years?

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I hope Essendon* folds.

I think we are at least approaching it in a much better way than previously. I think the best recent appointment is Trigg who seems to understand that we need to be way better and more scientific in recruiting and that we need a genuine process for selecting the coach. I'd love a new board but no-one appears to be putting their hand up. Surely after 15 years of disfunctional failure some of the board members must understand that what didn't work in the past will continue not to work in the future.

In the past we have appointed the wrong people, at least this time we have a better chance of getting the right person. Pagan was appointed to save Elliott, and inherited a club that was virtually bankrupt , was wooden spoon quality and lost two years of high draft picks, and Denis was yesterdays man, but to his credit he didn't publicly comment on the club after his sacking. Ratts had very little AFL coaching experience and was surrounded by first year assistants. Did pretty well, and if you look at our lineup for the 2011 WCE final, I am not sure how we got so far, but we should have looked further than the nearest guy, and I never liked how he publicly campaigned for the job when he was the interim coach. Mick was a bitter ex coach with a great record stretching well into last century, but the pies had seen he was at his use by date. he took the job with seemingly little understanding of our list and for huge money. He spent too much time playing politics and worrying about himself and his new contract. Surely after 15 years we have to get an appointment right.

I agree that our boards have failed us for a long time.

But, to be fair, nobody who was on the boards which appointed Pagan and Ratten remain on the board. Just sayin'.

But the principal of more board accountability is absolutely right

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