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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:43 am 
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If anything I'm feeling worse about it this morning


Does this mean you'll be telling individual posters to @#$%&! off? :D


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:44 am 
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i am really beginning to hate our club. they only ever let us down. .


They lied to us through song! I hate when people do that!


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:59 am 
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It was like the GWS game last year it was all to easy - ball was camped in our forward half 15 shots on goal to 5 we were just cruising - then Tigers got a couple of lucky goals in a row and they shat their dacks
Exactly what started in the GWS game .
Keogh saying bring in the younger group they are rubbish - Its not like you are injecting youth like other teams are we are will be playing a young group wo would struggle to find their way out onto the ground.
You can tell if they have got it or not- Look at young Campo last night his disposal was questionable but you can see he knows where to go how to run and getting in the right places.
Our players today will get up have their skinny cap decafe Latte with smashed Avo for breakfast- Skip off to the hair dressers get hair cut and a rinse - followed by a pedicure and manicure - Gov will buy new hand cream because leather makes his skin rash. Lunch will be a Salad and a green Smoothie followed by a trip to the tanning spa, then a trip to Paris end of Collins street to get the latest designer clothes - Might call by the club for a quick pilates session and then home before dark.

They are the weakest most pathetic bunch of girlie men every to grace a football field - we have players like Walsh who have been in the system for 5 years or more and they cant break a tackle from an 18 year old . Mckay getting out bodied at every contest.
Haynes fits right in he to has brown stains in his undies
Gov cant mark
Doc all the years in playing frightened of body contact so he tosses the ball away
Cotrell back to his Forrest Gump impersonations- Run Cotrell run

They are pathetic

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:01 am 
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If anything I'm feeling worse about it this morning


Does this mean you'll be telling individual posters to @#$%&! off? :D


It's embarrassing - I'm walking round at work like someone has shat in my cornflakes. Which really shouldn't worry me because I don't eat cornflakes anyway so really, i could just pour them down the sink and no great loss. I swore I would never let footy do this to me again.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:11 am 
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i am really beginning to hate our club. they only ever let us down. 25 years and counting of disappointment, pea-heartedness, piss poor coaching, even worse drafting and development.

did voss issue a public apology in the presser? i turned it all off and went for a walk.



You sound like my 2 boys.

They blamed me for supporting Carlton last night. They were cut deep.

Told them to barrack for Swans if it makes them feel better. They said they can't :lol:

All I could tell them is I will see another Carlton Flag before I die, and I'm still partying as hard as I can to make that sooner than later :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:22 am 
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Positives:
Weitering, TdK, JSoS, Cerra, Cripps, Campo

Negatives:
Evans (why is he even in the side?)
McGovern (how many times before we wake - up he is a huge liability) Overrated by a bit.
Haynes (alarm bells - one more week?)
Harry (that was embarrassing)
Saad - learn to f@#$&*% kick to our advantage and stop running around like a headless chook. Overrated.
Walsh - not the player he was. SAD

Forward line entries and setup, just plain rubbish.
Midfield defence non existed and not willing to defend or tackle. Just not AFL standard.
We wanted to play bruise free football - did we carry too many not ready?
Midfield consisting of Hewett and Cripps is slow, too slow. Can’t keep saying it.
Why did we sub Lord and not Evans?
We needed to play Young and refusal to play him is costing us games. Moving SoS forward highlighted this mistake.

This game showed why the AFL industry has no respect for us!!!!


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:31 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Positives:
Weitering, TdK, JSoS, Cerra, Cripps, Campo

Negatives:
Evans (why is he even in the side?)
McGovern (how many times before we wake - up he is a huge liability) Overrated by a bit.
Haynes (alarm bells - one more week?)
Harry (that was embarrassing)
Saad - learn to f@#$&*% kick to our advantage and stop running around like a headless chook. Overrated.
Walsh - not the player he was. SAD

Forward line entries and setup, just plain rubbish.
Midfield defence non existed and not willing to defend or tackle. Just not AFL standard.
We wanted to play bruise free football - did we carry too many not ready?
Midfield consisting of Hewett and Cripps is slow, too slow. Can’t keep saying it.
Why did we sub Lord and not Evans?
We needed to play Young and refusal to play him is costing us games. Moving SoS forward highlighted this mistake.

This game showed why the AFL industry has no respect for us!!!!


Fair enough

I thought Haines played better than Harry last night.
Haines wasnt the reason we lost.
Our forward entry and forad line cost us dearly.

Hewett and Cripps were not our problem. They were 2 of our best.
Yze forced us to take a different route out of the stoppage. It worked.
Its on the outside we struggled, not the inside.

Don't know why, but Hewett is an easy target and that's totally unjutified.
I actually have an idea why...something called hysteria and bandwagons and whipping boys, and easier to avoid pointing fingers at favourites on higher salaries or higher draft picks. I wish everyone was as committed and as SAFE as Hewett. Stop picking on him.

Forward line is where we lost it. Everything points to that. Hewett and Cripps were not in the forward line.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:42 am 
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Lost my post with damning stats forward of centre.

Bottom line is that all stats show we gave the forwards plenty of opportunity.

More forward entries (20 more), more marks inside 50, more shots at goal, more possessions, more centre clearances

Nankervis kicked 2 goals. Harry & Kemp kicked 2 goals 3 behinds.

Our forwards didn't bring the pressure. Their small backmen out tackled us and ran off with ease.

Our forwardline and our targets forward were too stationary. Smalls don't work hard enough.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:43 am 
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Heavs wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
Heavs wrote:
If anything I'm feeling worse about it this morning


Does this mean you'll be telling individual posters to @#$%&! off? :D


It's embarrassing - I'm walking round at work like someone has shat in my cornflakes. Which really shouldn't worry me because I don't eat cornflakes anyway so really, i could just pour them down the sink and no great loss. I swore I would never let footy do this to me again.


That's the worst thing, this bunch of crabs has no right to impact my mood as much as they do. Come Tues/Wed I'll almost be looking forward to the footy again and then whack, they'll let me down again.

Textbook abusive relationship.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:45 am 
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Not a whipping boy at all, I like Hewett, but the setup of him and Cripps doesn’t work. Too slow and limits our outside run and teams are burning us. It’s really that simple.


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In round zero last year we came from a long way back to win by a point. The team we defeated went on to win the flag.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:47 am 
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bluechampion wrote:
In round zero last year we came from a long way back to win by a point. The team we defeated went on to win the flag.


Hawthorn, Doggies and Collingwood to come. Let’s talk then!


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:51 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Not a whipping boy at all, I like Hewett, but the setup of him and Cripps doesn’t work. Too slow and limits our outside run and teams are burning us. It’s really that simple.


So, how do you think we make it work? Drop Cripps? Drop Hewett?

That's not where we lost it.

Cripps and Hewett did their jobs on the inside.
Who is better on the inside than those 2 ... at Carlton? Serious.

So, Cerra and Walsh had the better of their opponents on the outside?
They didn't, but that's not where we lost it.

You need players who do the dirty work.....not just on the inside, but in the forward line too.

Tigers ran the ball out from defense, and off they went...a bit kamikaze Hardwick style, but we lost it in our forward line.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:58 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Not a whipping boy at all, I like Hewett, but the setup of him and Cripps doesn’t work. Too slow and limits our outside run and teams are burning us. It’s really that simple.


So, how do you think we make it work? Drop Cripps? Drop Hewett?

That's not where we lost it.

Cripps and Hewett did their jobs on the inside.
Who is better on the inside than those 2 ... at Carlton? Serious.

So, Cerra and Walsh had the better of their opponents on the outside?
They didn't, but that's not where we lost it.

You need players who do the dirty work.....not just on the inside, but in the forward line too.

Tigers ran the ball out from defense, and off they went...a bit kamikaze Hardwick style, but we lost it in our forward line.


Yes, our forward line was were we lost it and I mentioned that but our midfield couldn’t lay a tackle or even get near the opposition when the ball was out and about. If you didn’t see it, then I have nothing further to add.

Ps. I also love how not many are mentioning the 4 goals McGovern gifted them….just a liability.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 10:02 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Not a whipping boy at all, I like Hewett, but the setup of him and Cripps doesn’t work. Too slow and limits our outside run and teams are burning us. It’s really that simple.


So, how do you think we make it work? Drop Cripps? Drop Hewett?

That's not where we lost it.

Cripps and Hewett did their jobs on the inside.
Who is better on the inside than those 2 ... at Carlton? Serious.

So, Cerra and Walsh had the better of their opponents on the outside?
They didn't, but that's not where we lost it.

You need players who do the dirty work.....not just on the inside, but in the forward line too.

Tigers ran the ball out from defense, and off they went...a bit kamikaze Hardwick style, but we lost it in our forward line.


I’ll add - rotate Cripps and Hewett. One not both. Hewett bench when resting because he can’t play anywhere else. Personally, I would have kept Kennedy and traded Hewett because he can’t play any other positions, but that is another discussion and not worth getting into it right now. I’m sure Voss doesn’t like to be challenged so that decision was easy for him in the end.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 10:10 am 
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I didnt have much hope for us this year. Poor list. Flogging a dead horse. However, I didnt expect us to be as bad as last night.
Id say a lot had to do with conditioning. They seemed primed for rd1 whereas we look like we are still in the middle of tough preseason with no taper.
Not in the first quarter though. We were running over the ground so that is the quarter that I am interested in. Why in the quarter when everything was going our way did we still struggle to move the ball fluently and struggle to score goals.

I dont think we are as bad as last night and as the season progresses we will have some very good days. We will finish 5 or 6 places above the Tigers. I just hope we put some gametime into the youngsters and start planning for a new beginning as we are nuts if we keep doing the same thing year after year.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 10:26 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Not a whipping boy at all, I like Hewett, but the setup of him and Cripps doesn’t work. Too slow and limits our outside run and teams are burning us. It’s really that simple.


So, how do you think we make it work? Drop Cripps? Drop Hewett?

That's not where we lost it.

Cripps and Hewett did their jobs on the inside.
Who is better on the inside than those 2 ... at Carlton? Serious.

So, Cerra and Walsh had the better of their opponents on the outside?
They didn't, but that's not where we lost it.

You need players who do the dirty work.....not just on the inside, but in the forward line too.

Tigers ran the ball out from defense, and off they went...a bit kamikaze Hardwick style, but we lost it in our forward line.


I’ll add - rotate Cripps and Hewett. One not both. Hewett bench when resting because he can’t play anywhere else. Personally, I would have kept Kennedy and traded Hewett because he can’t play any other positions, but that is another discussion and not worth getting into it right now. I’m sure Voss doesn’t like to be challenged so that decision was easy for him in the end.


Kennedy Hewett is not the issue. You're making it the issue.

Hewett does play HF at times. A lot don't realise that or don't want to acknowledge that because it doesnt suit the agenda. And when he does he does score goals, or creates goals, not from marking, but from ground ball. Kennedy didn't do that, and imo Kennedy, like Motlop and Fogarty are all overrated. Kennedy's marking and bullocking was good but not the difference between losing and winning last night.

Speed coming out of defense killed us last night. It wasnt our mids who lost the game for us. Tigers kicked 13 goals 4. We didn't take our opportunities and didn't exert enough pressure, playing bruise free footy forward of centre.

We kicked 9 goals from 65 entries. Let that sink in.
We had 25 more forward 50 entries and 7 more shots at goals and lost by 13 points.

All that supply is quite impressive as a body of work. It came from somewhere. It came from further up the ground...from Cripps and Hewett and Cerra and Walsh. Mids were not the reason we lost last night. I can't put it more succinctly.

We move forward and try and fix our achilles heal.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 10:54 am 
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i think we need to move past the amount of entries we had ...

65 sound great, but if 60% of them werent slapping the footy on the boot and hoping for the best, i will fall of my chair.

our entries are rubbish. we either miss targets, or kick to a 3 on 1 requiring miracles, or just plain pump it long to nothing ... very few times did we have a forward entry with purpose.

i had some faith in motlop and co, but after last night, nope ... start again. Fogarty gets a pass as he can at least lay a tackle and apply pressure. The rest, rubbish.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:03 am 
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ScottSaunders2 wrote:
i think we need to move past the amount of entries we had ...

65 sound great, but if 60% of them werent slapping the footy on the boot and hoping for the best, i will fall of my chair.

our entries are rubbish. we either miss targets, or kick to a 3 on 1 requiring miracles, or just plain pump it long to nothing ... very few times did we have a forward entry with purpose.

i had some faith in motlop and co, but after last night, nope ... start again. Fogarty gets a pass as he can at least lay a tackle and apply pressure. The rest, rubbish.

Agree on everything except I think Fogarty doesn't do enough either.
I was hopeful that Motlop might improve following a good pre-season however he is just too slow and gets caught with the ball far too often.
With Jagga Smith and Elijah out of action the cupboard is pretty bare at half forward - hopefully Moir can step up this season.

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‘Call a spade a spade’: Damning vision exposes how Blues ‘lost the plot’ in MCG capitulation

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