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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 8:48 am 
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So it’s not about how many rucks we have, it’s actually about how many tall forwards we have.


it's about both. we got the two best forwards in the game. adding another lumbering ruck to that mix makes us slow and lumbering and down a runner.


Correct. It's not that difficult. When you have a second ruck, he has to occupy a spot when he's not on ball. It's not opinion, it's a statistical fact that we win significantly less games when we have 2 tall forwards and 2 rucks. Same with last year. I'm not saying we shouldn't play 2 rucks again but we need to pick our targets and come up with better strategies to capitalise on any benefits.

Getting back to this weekends game, I wouldn't be overly surprised to see Setterfield come in and try to nullify Cripps.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:27 am 
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Only worry is Peter Wright getting off the chain

Peter Wright got off the chain last year because Lewis Young was playing on him.
Weiters won't let that happen.
My main concern is complacency as there has been a lot of positive press, and we only ever seem to play well when under pressure. Bombers will probably come out with a 'nothing to lose' mentality.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:39 am 
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i think we'll be up and about for this one. 90k at the G, bad taste in our mouth after losing the last one.

as long as we've got 1 ruck, we'll obliterate them


What's the obsession with one Ruck ? Darcy and Jackson belted the bejeezus out of the one out Max Gawn which spearheaded the Dockers massive win over the Dees . Its a horse for courses for mine . There is definitely a place for Pitto and TDK in the one team . Pies won a Flag with a couple of spud ruckman . It works mate .


lol ... obsession? i just want to win.

2 rucks ... it doesn't work, bcos when we go with 2 rucks, we play with 3 key forwards. that's the key bit that kills us. no defensive pressure or turnover and we couldn't run out games like we do with the extra runner.

the other teams you mention only play with one key forward and then a resting ruck forward. we start every game down a runner, and we don't run out games. that's not a coincidence. every game with pitto and tdk we fell away in the 4th qtr, yeah? our turnovers & defensive pressure were down, right? and most importantly we lost.,

harry, charlie and tdk up forward is too much tall timber, can't lock the ball in, can't cause turnover and attcking, they just all get in each other's way.

if you don't believe me, look at the most vital stat with 2 rucks/ 3 key forwards - wins. and then look at our win/loss record with 1 ruck.


So it’s not about how many rucks we have, it’s actually about how many tall forwards we have.


it's about both. we got the two best forwards in the game. adding another lumbering ruck to that mix makes us slow and lumbering and down a runner.

forward pressure and turnover is what wins games and finals and more. two rucks and dominating stoppage not so much, and overrated. lets not forget how much better harry is in the back up ruck role. how much better tdk is as the sole ruck etc

out of the team that won on friday night, who do you replace with pittonet? pick any player you like ... the gains of pittonet do not outweigh the losses of the outgoing player.


If Harry or Charlie are injured, we replace them with TDK, and we replace TDK with Pittonet. So we have two rucks and one tall forward.

The trick is to keep a balance of no more than three total rucks plus tall forwards.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:31 am 
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Merrett is genuinely very good and will hurt you by hand or foot. Simply have to shut him down, send Hewett to him to put work into him at the stoppage.

Cincotta to go to one of Guelfi, Gresham or Hind if he goes forward. Redman out is big for them, need someone to keep Ridley accountable now (this is where a fit Jack Martin or Silvagni would be handy)


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i am worried about there quick ball movement hope our fwds bring there tackling pressure rating high


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Beat me to it....

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Binns is the only one out of that lot in any sort of decent form. All the others were woeful in the VFL last week.


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theres the mystery mid week injury.....

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Binns is the only one out of that lot in any sort of decent form. All the others were woeful in the VFL last week.


It won’t be Binns though. My tip is Motlop. Might be out of form but he’s the type of player who can suck in the VFL and can come in and turn it on at AFL level. From memory he came in last year in a similar situation as a replacement for Owies who was a late out and kicked 4 goals in the first half.


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theres the mystery mid week injury.....


The mystery is why it's taken him 12 games to get injured.

Agreed with Motlop as the likely replacement.


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Whoever the replacement is, they’re going to be the sub.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 11:17 pm 
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If we’re picking five from the extended bench as named, I’d go with:

Hewett, Fogarty, Boyd, Binns & Durdin as the sub.

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Crusader wrote:
If we’re picking five from the extended bench as named, I’d go with:

Hewett, Fogarty, Boyd, Binns & Durdin as the sub.

Hewett, Fogarty, Boyd, Carroll & Durdin as the sub

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GreatEx wrote:
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theres the mystery mid week injury.....


The mystery is why it's taken him 12 games to get injured.


He’s had a slow start to the year.

Good to see him finally getting with the program.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 8:49 am 
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Crusader wrote:
If we’re picking five from the extended bench as named, I’d go with:

Hewett, Fogarty, Boyd, Binns & Durdin as the sub.


5 subs. Bold strategy. I like it.

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