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Injury Thread 2022
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Author:  CK95 [ Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/matches/injury-list


Quote:
Harry McKay Knee Has some knee soreness out of Round 6: is a test to play this week. (Update: 26 April)

Author:  bondiblue [ Wed Apr 27, 2022 4:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

Blue Vain wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
All you need to do is watch the replay. He looks at Pitto, attacks him with gusto (see his face screw up with determination to collide into Pitto) then AFTER he makes contact into the spot he was aiming for, as Pitto collapses, Darcy looks up and the ball coming down happens to be where his hand is and he wins the tap.


Correct Bondi. At the point of contact, only one player was looking at the ball. Pretty average IMHO. Pitto was giving him a lesson and his response was to take his opponent out.


Quote:
Luke Hodge says ruckmen should have their eyes on the ball when going up for a contest.

Talking with Gerard Whateley this morning, “Razor” Ray Chamberlain broke down when an umpire would pay a free kick for blocking in the ruck.


“Marking and rucking have the same overarching philosophy, which is that a player whose prime objective is to contest the football will be allowed to do so,” Chamberlain told SEN's Whateley.

“If just one ruckman puts out an arm, then it's a block and free kick. When they both do it, nothing to see here.”

However, four-time premiership player Hodge did not think this addressed the issue of ruckmen focusing on their opposition over the ball.

Hodge called into the program to question Chamberlain on his comparison of rucking to a marking contest.

“If you’ve got a ruckman who’s standing there with eyes on the ball, and the opposition is just running straight at him with his knee up, and that poor ruckman cops an injury and is out for three months, there’s gotta be a few things we need to look at, and say ‘how’s that allowed?’” Hodge said.

“You’ve gotta at least watch the ball.”

Carlton ruckman Marc Pittonet is set to miss up to three months with a PCL injury in his knee, after a ruck collision with Fremantle’s Sean Darcy, whose eyes were on his opponent, rather than the ball.


https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/04/27/hodge-unsatisfied-with-chamberlains-ruling-on-rucks/

OK, that doesn't help Pitto now, but what is the AFL going to do about Darcy's violent action?

Does Michael Christian know the rules?

Pitto was giving him a bath so Darcy resorted to violence. Looks the same build as a Balme. Must be related.

Author:  GMCbris [ Wed Apr 27, 2022 4:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

Never liked Hodge

Starting to warm to him all of a sudden

Glad someone called Darcy out for this

Author:  AGRO [ Wed Apr 27, 2022 4:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

bondiblue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
All you need to do is watch the replay. He looks at Pitto, attacks him with gusto (see his face screw up with determination to collide into Pitto) then AFTER he makes contact into the spot he was aiming for, as Pitto collapses, Darcy looks up and the ball coming down happens to be where his hand is and he wins the tap.


Correct Bondi. At the point of contact, only one player was looking at the ball. Pretty average IMHO. Pitto was giving him a lesson and his response was to take his opponent out.


Quote:
Luke Hodge says ruckmen should have their eyes on the ball when going up for a contest.

Talking with Gerard Whateley this morning, “Razor” Ray Chamberlain broke down when an umpire would pay a free kick for blocking in the ruck.


“Marking and rucking have the same overarching philosophy, which is that a player whose prime objective is to contest the football will be allowed to do so,” Chamberlain told SEN's Whateley.

“If just one ruckman puts out an arm, then it's a block and free kick. When they both do it, nothing to see here.”

However, four-time premiership player Hodge did not think this addressed the issue of ruckmen focusing on their opposition over the ball.

Hodge called into the program to question Chamberlain on his comparison of rucking to a marking contest.

“If you’ve got a ruckman who’s standing there with eyes on the ball, and the opposition is just running straight at him with his knee up, and that poor ruckman cops an injury and is out for three months, there’s gotta be a few things we need to look at, and say ‘how’s that allowed?’” Hodge said.

“You’ve gotta at least watch the ball.”

Carlton ruckman Marc Pittonet is set to miss up to three months with a PCL injury in his knee, after a ruck collision with Fremantle’s Sean Darcy, whose eyes were on his opponent, rather than the ball.


https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/04/27/hodge-unsatisfied-with-chamberlains-ruling-on-rucks/

OK, that doesn't help Pitto now, but what is the AFL going to do about Darcy's violent action?

Does Michael Christian know the rules?

Pitto was giving him a bath so Darcy resorted to violence. Looks the same build as a Balme. Must be related.



And some people are advocating bringing in Alex Mirkov to debut against Todd Goldstein this week - Goldstein would make it his first order of business to put Mirkov out of commission in the first contest - it would be a slaughter.

Author:  Blues21 [ Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

AGRO wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
All you need to do is watch the replay. He looks at Pitto, attacks him with gusto (see his face screw up with determination to collide into Pitto) then AFTER he makes contact into the spot he was aiming for, as Pitto collapses, Darcy looks up and the ball coming down happens to be where his hand is and he wins the tap.


Correct Bondi. At the point of contact, only one player was looking at the ball. Pretty average IMHO. Pitto was giving him a lesson and his response was to take his opponent out.


Quote:
Luke Hodge says ruckmen should have their eyes on the ball when going up for a contest.

Talking with Gerard Whateley this morning, “Razor” Ray Chamberlain broke down when an umpire would pay a free kick for blocking in the ruck.


“Marking and rucking have the same overarching philosophy, which is that a player whose prime objective is to contest the football will be allowed to do so,” Chamberlain told SEN's Whateley.

“If just one ruckman puts out an arm, then it's a block and free kick. When they both do it, nothing to see here.”

However, four-time premiership player Hodge did not think this addressed the issue of ruckmen focusing on their opposition over the ball.

Hodge called into the program to question Chamberlain on his comparison of rucking to a marking contest.

“If you’ve got a ruckman who’s standing there with eyes on the ball, and the opposition is just running straight at him with his knee up, and that poor ruckman cops an injury and is out for three months, there’s gotta be a few things we need to look at, and say ‘how’s that allowed?’” Hodge said.

“You’ve gotta at least watch the ball.”

Carlton ruckman Marc Pittonet is set to miss up to three months with a PCL injury in his knee, after a ruck collision with Fremantle’s Sean Darcy, whose eyes were on his opponent, rather than the ball.


https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/04/27/hodge-unsatisfied-with-chamberlains-ruling-on-rucks/

OK, that doesn't help Pitto now, but what is the AFL going to do about Darcy's violent action?

Does Michael Christian know the rules?

Pitto was giving him a bath so Darcy resorted to violence. Looks the same build as a Balme. Must be related.



And some people are advocating bringing in Alex Mirkov to debut against Todd Goldstein this week - Goldstein would make it his first order of business to put Mirkov out of commission in the first contest - it would be a slaughter.


That's a slur on Todd Goldstein, an illogical argument and complete BS to boot.

So it's perfectly fine if Goldy does this to TDK, Silvagni, Young or whomever they decide to put into the 2nd ruck?

I'm absolutely advocating to play Mirkov. That's what he does - he's a ruck. Lets find out what he can do.

Author:  bondiblue [ Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

Blues21 wrote:
AGRO wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
All you need to do is watch the replay. He looks at Pitto, attacks him with gusto (see his face screw up with determination to collide into Pitto) then AFTER he makes contact into the spot he was aiming for, as Pitto collapses, Darcy looks up and the ball coming down happens to be where his hand is and he wins the tap.


Correct Bondi. At the point of contact, only one player was looking at the ball. Pretty average IMHO. Pitto was giving him a lesson and his response was to take his opponent out.


Quote:
Luke Hodge says ruckmen should have their eyes on the ball when going up for a contest.

Talking with Gerard Whateley this morning, “Razor” Ray Chamberlain broke down when an umpire would pay a free kick for blocking in the ruck.


“Marking and rucking have the same overarching philosophy, which is that a player whose prime objective is to contest the football will be allowed to do so,” Chamberlain told SEN's Whateley.

“If just one ruckman puts out an arm, then it's a block and free kick. When they both do it, nothing to see here.”

However, four-time premiership player Hodge did not think this addressed the issue of ruckmen focusing on their opposition over the ball.

Hodge called into the program to question Chamberlain on his comparison of rucking to a marking contest.

“If you’ve got a ruckman who’s standing there with eyes on the ball, and the opposition is just running straight at him with his knee up, and that poor ruckman cops an injury and is out for three months, there’s gotta be a few things we need to look at, and say ‘how’s that allowed?’” Hodge said.

“You’ve gotta at least watch the ball.”

Carlton ruckman Marc Pittonet is set to miss up to three months with a PCL injury in his knee, after a ruck collision with Fremantle’s Sean Darcy, whose eyes were on his opponent, rather than the ball.


https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/04/27/hodge-unsatisfied-with-chamberlains-ruling-on-rucks/

OK, that doesn't help Pitto now, but what is the AFL going to do about Darcy's violent action?

Does Michael Christian know the rules?

Pitto was giving him a bath so Darcy resorted to violence. Looks the same build as a Balme. Must be related.



And some people are advocating bringing in Alex Mirkov to debut against Todd Goldstein this week - Goldstein would make it his first order of business to put Mirkov out of commission in the first contest - it would be a slaughter.


That's a slur on Todd Goldstein, an illogical argument and complete BS to boot.

So it's perfectly fine if Goldy does this to TDK, Silvagni, Young or whomever they decide to put into the 2nd ruck?

I'm absolutely advocating to play Mirkov. That's what he does - he's a ruck. Lets find out what he can do.


Agro is probably alluding to the fact Mirkov is a novice, not only in the ruck, but to the game Aussie rules. He started playing footy last year for Ivanhoe after playing volleyball.

2 experienced seasoned rucks were hit deliberately in the centre square contest, on the weekend, and they will be out for 2-3 months with injury. Fair chance that could happen to Mirkov against a heavier, more experienced ruckman. I get where he's coming from. The umpires nor Michael Christian will be looking out for him. No one will. He's on his own if he faces Goldstein.

Author:  AGRO [ Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

bondiblue wrote:
Blues21 wrote:
AGRO wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
[quote="bondiblue"

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/04/27/hodge-unsatisfied-with-chamberlains-ruling-on-rucks/

OK, that doesn't help Pitto now, but what is the AFL going to do about Darcy's violent action?

Does Michael Christian know the rules?

Pitto was giving him a bath so Darcy resorted to violence. Looks the same build as a Balme. Must be related.



And some people are advocating bringing in Alex Mirkov to debut against Todd Goldstein this week - Goldstein would make it his first order of business to put Mirkov out of commission in the first contest - it would be a slaughter.


That's a slur on Todd Goldstein, an illogical argument and complete BS to boot.

So it's perfectly fine if Goldy does this to TDK, Silvagni, Young or whomever they decide to put into the 2nd ruck?

I'm absolutely advocating to play Mirkov. That's what he does - he's a ruck. Lets find out what he can do.


Agro is probably alluding to the fact Mirkov is a novice, not only in the ruck, but to the game Aussie rules. He started playing footy last year for Ivanhoe after playing volleyball.

2 experienced seasoned rucks were hit deliberately in the centre square contest, on the weekend, and they will be out for 2-3 months with injury. Fair chance that could happen to Mirkov against a heavier, more experienced ruckman. I get where he's coming from. The umpires nor Michael Christian will be looking out for him. No one will. He's on his own if he faces Goldstein.



Correct, Mirkov has played less than 20 games of senior football in his whole life - Goldstein has played 240 senior games, and probably over 100 games of junior football.

Also if you don’t reckon Goldstein wouldn’t make Mirkov “earn it” then I think that’s very naive thinking.

Author:  rhino27 [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

Not sure we'll be seeing Gov anytime soon based on what Vossy has said.
Still struggle to comprehend how a bloke does a hammy like that in training which is supposed to be a controlled environment.

Also seems to indicate that Liam will not be returning even if mandates get lifted.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/04/28/ ... -mcgovern/

Author:  Sydney Blue [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

Gov has redone his hamstring
Wont be seeing him anytime soon

Author:  sinbagger [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:43 am ]
Post subject:  Injury Thread 2022

For some context on the previous two posts, he did his hamstring a month ago, not yesterday.

Author:  CK95 [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

Quote:
CARLTON defender Mitch McGovern has experienced a re-aggravation of his hamstring injury and will remain sidelined for an extended period of time.

McGovern underwent scans this morning after experiencing discomfort during training.



https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/11138 ... n-mcgovern


That's from the club site from today

Author:  Sydney Blue [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

sinbagger wrote:
For some context on the previous two posts, he did his hamstring a month ago, not yesterday.



BREAKING: Mitch McGovern has experienced a re-aggravation of his hamstring injury & will remain sidelined for an extended period of time. McGovern underwent scans this morning, a timeline of recovery to be known next week once he is further assessed.

Author:  sinbagger [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:51 am ]
Post subject:  Injury Thread 2022

Clearly I should have ignored the Sen article from three hours ago…..

Author:  Blues21 [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

Sydney Blue wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
For some context on the previous two posts, he did his hamstring a month ago, not yesterday.



BREAKING: Mitch McGovern has experienced a re-aggravation of his hamstring injury & will remain sidelined for an extended period of time. McGovern underwent scans this morning, a timeline of recovery to be known next week once he is further assessed.


As good as he is and as much as we need him his career is over. Always had issues with hamstrings. He missed 2017 PF/GF with Adelaide for this reason.

Cut your losses ad let him go.

Author:  bluechampion [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

He played 23 games in his debut season... but since then the best he's ever managed is 16. He can play, no doubt. But I don't think his body will ever let him reach his potential.

Author:  CK95 [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

What's Parks' injury?

Author:  bondiblue [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

Sydney Blue wrote:
Gov has redone his hamstring
Wont be seeing him anytime soon



We traded for an injury prone player.
We can't rely on Gov.

I'm guessing Pitto and Gov will be conditioned for the run to the Finals...no choice really.

So who is our intercept mark? I think Kemp is the only one left, and he's sitting in the twos. FMD.

Author:  bondiblue [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

Blues21 wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
For some context on the previous two posts, he did his hamstring a month ago, not yesterday.



BREAKING: Mitch McGovern has experienced a re-aggravation of his hamstring injury & will remain sidelined for an extended period of time. McGovern underwent scans this morning, a timeline of recovery to be known next week once he is further assessed.


As good as he is and as much as we need him his career is over. Always had issues with hamstrings. He missed 2017 PF/GF with Adelaide for this reason.

Cut your losses ad let him go.


Correct.

Author:  rhino27 [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

bondiblue wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Gov has redone his hamstring
Wont be seeing him anytime soon



We traded for an injury prone player.
We can't rely on Gov.

I'm guessing Pitto and Gov will be conditioned for the run to the Finals...no choice really.

So who is our intercept mark? I think Kemp is the only one left, and he's sitting in the twos. FMD.


Kemp not only sitting in the twos, but playing in the forward line. Be interesting to see where he lines up in the vfl tomorrow.

Author:  bondiblue [ Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Injury Thread 2022

rhino27 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Gov has redone his hamstring
Wont be seeing him anytime soon



We traded for an injury prone player.
We can't rely on Gov.

I'm guessing Pitto and Gov will be conditioned for the run to the Finals...no choice really.

So who is our intercept mark? I think Kemp is the only one left, and he's sitting in the twos. FMD.


Kemp not only sitting in the twos, but playing in the forward line. Be interesting to see where he lines up in the vfl tomorrow.


Actually played as the loose man in defence. Didn't look AFL quality to me TBH. Needs to quicken up. He's suppose to be quick and mobile for his size. Allright...

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