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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:21 pm 
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He said he will speak to Sammo. We will see. And what Voss thinks of him. See if he can turn him around.

Voss sounds impressive right now. Hope the talk transalates into actions.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:28 pm 
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I thought he came across well in the press conference. He seemed excited and like he has something to prove.


He was assertive, and gave us a good insight to his philosophy. Didn't get sucked into any of the questioning.

So glad to have our coach not dropping cliches constantly, or staring every answer with an irritating, deafening long "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......"

Voss said he wanted to be himself and be as honest and transparent as he could.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:29 pm 
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Wonderful :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:30 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
On SEN now

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I put up (somewhat poorly) paraphrased Twitter thread (click below for the subsequent commentary)…



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:30 pm 
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Like this appointment

Lets bring on preseason!


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:31 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
On SEN now

Regards Cazzesman



Spoke well - we all hope this is a success

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:32 pm 
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Yep he is honest. Doesnt use a log of jargon. And yes Bondi, that Ahhhhhhhh really annoyed me.

I dont trust people who use jargon to bamboozle people. They are people with a gift of the gab with no fricken idea about the mechanics of things.

And oh geez, Kenny Hunter and the Dominator were my favourite players too so thats a big tick for me. :)


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:34 pm 
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Great player and captain who has never come across as the sharpest tool in the shed to me.

I’m struggling to think of an example of an unsuccessful coach who subsequently went to another club and won a premiership. I don’t really count Blight because he was successful at Geelong (even though they didn’t win a flag). Malthouse maybe going from Footscray to WCE is the only one I can think of (but was he sacked from the Dogs or did he walk?).

Anyway, having said all that……I agree that he has served a good apprenticeship now. I’m also cautiously confident in Sayers’s judgment.

I didn’t catch much of the press conference but I heard Voss on SEN this arvo and he presented well.

He’s one of us now, so I’ll get behind him.

Go sort ‘em out Vossy!! :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:36 pm 
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kezza wrote:
Voss is going to be on SEN at around 3.10 today.

In all seriousness, his head must be spinning.

I can't imagine the meetings he must be having and media, as well as navigating getting a family across.

Wow, this is next level from what he would have been doing and had he not got the job.

Life takes you in many ways sometimes.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:44 pm 
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robertbb wrote:
My Masters' supervisor once told me:

"To fully understand a problem, one must first unsuccessfully implement a solution."

Why? I asked

"Because only once you've figured out why your first attempt didn't work, have you grasped what is required. The next attempt should be bang on point. v2.0 is always bette than v1.0 (or even 1.1 service pack 12)".

What followed was hard yards of reflection, dissection and a second attempt that ultimately got the desired outcome.

He's done the reflection and the dissection at a club with a fantastic culture and has learned from a master in Ken Hinkley. He can only be better for it.

Wishing Vossy all the best in his role as head coach v2.0.


Was that just you on SEN?? Approx 3:40pm with Bob & Andy??


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:52 pm 
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buzzaaaah wrote:
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Wasn't my top choice but I've moved on & am excited again. All the best Vossy. Go Blues.




Same.

I am genuinely excited to see what happens with Stocker, Kemp and Dow under Voss.

Others also.

Carroll, Ramsay, O'Brien, Honey, Fogarty, Durdin, Philp, and Owies. If he can turn only some of these into genuine AFL footballers ...


By the way, I picked Voss on the TC thread when Clarkson and Lyon were still there. :smile:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:59 pm 
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GeeCoach15 wrote:
You know what i am happy because it is done and we can move forward and more importantly the players can move forward.

My take on it albeit is worth stuff all but willing to share:

As a player he was hard edged and uncompromising and that is what we need in a coach so hope he brings it.

I believe he had charge of Port's Midfield. Improvement in the last 2 years in their mids. Boak 30+ years of age but playing Career best footy, Wines was on the chopping block last year and now is Brownlow Medalist, William Drew, no-one knew who he was and he played all year and kept some good players out, Amon was looking at being Traded had a career best year. Surely Voss had some role to play in this.

I reckon with his Status and his background then he can attract some good assistant coaches, eg. Nigel Lappin, keep Luke Power and maybe attract some others.

NOW FFS CARLTON FC GIVE THIS BLOKE A CHANCE OF MORE THAN 2-3 YEARS TO PUT HIS MARK AND STAMP ON THINGS.



This is a good post & you raise some good points.

Hard edged and uncompromising. I like that. I hope that comes across in team selection.

My main beef with Teague was that he kept going back to the same well on players, even when there was sub-par performances.

For example, Settlefield.

For example, Mitch McGovern
Round 5- 13 possessions, 1 goal.
That is his definition of a contribution. He rarely goes above that quota. And yet he got picked for the next two weeks.
I wouldn't give him a game until he is getting far more than his standard 13 possessions and a couple of half efforts.

Josh Honey - in his first proper game of his career (3rd game in total)- got 13 possessions and 2 goals, so he bettered McGovern in his first proper game.

Anyway, I think small forwards will be an interesting area they need to address now that Eddie Betts has departed. I hope they do their homework on that.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:01 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
Yep he is honest. Doesnt use a log of jargon. And yes Bondi, that Ahhhhhhhh really annoyed me.

I dont trust people who use jargon to bamboozle people. They are people with a gift of the gab with no fricken idea about the mechanics of things.

And oh geez, Kenny Hunter and the Dominator were my favourite players too so thats a big tick for me. :)

He said he can have Kenny Hunter on speed dial now , and he was mad Carlton growing up and knows our history !!

Spoke well on sen and my take away from this was clean slate , embrace what’s ahead for himself and playing group , quietly passionate and hungry

Yes I am delusional Carlton supporter who loves someone who is passionate about making Carlton great again and I can be swayed easily , especially When you mention Hunter and the dominator

Maher only wants 6 premierships from him , I’m the same

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:05 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
He was a great player and I can only imagine that getting sacked from a club where he was an absolute legend would have been a crushing blow. There's not many larger public humiliations than a superstar player/senior AFL coach losing their job.

But instead of sooking it up and walking away, he has gone back to hone his skills. He's moved his family interstate, swallowed his pride, taken a secondary role and put in the hard yards to start the learning process again. I like his pathway. He knows success, he knows leadership and he now knows humility and the frailty and uncertainty that we mere mortals have to contend with.
If he understands his weaknesses, surrounds himself with complementary people and most importantly, allows them to do their jobs, I think he'll be a great coach.

I definitely second that , great post mate !!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:08 pm 
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Heavs wrote:
What does this mean for Woosha and his zoom gig?

He is still waiting for someone to pick up the zoom call ...

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:15 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
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Welcome 'back' to Princes Park Vossy.
Let's get this club that you supported as a kid back to number 1.


:thumbsup:

The last time I remember seeing Vossy at PP was back in his playing days in Carlton vs Lions game. Kouta was unstoppable at times.

I think this game in 1998 as I think it was mid season.
https://finalsiren.com/MatchDetails.asp ... 0866823518

or this in 2000 but that is a Round 1 game
https://finalsiren.com/MatchDetails.asp ... 0f69f797e9

At one centre bounce Kouta raced under the ruckman, plucked the ball out the air with one hand, shrugged of Voss and exploded past a few others and lobbed it in the goal square where someone (Whits) took the mark and goaled. I had my bino's on Voss and he just stood in the centre square, hands on hips, shaking his head, with half a grin talking to Lappin.

If I was a lip reader I'm sure he was saying 'How the @#$% do we stop this freak.'

Good times.....

Regards Cazzesman

Voss first day of preseason has to show the whole playing group , the clip of the 2002 gf when burns hits him and Voss gets up to handball to simon black for the goal and go gives burns a serve !!

And then asks the playing group , how bad do you want you this opportunity to be great !!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:16 pm 
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I have serious dislike for Voss.

I’m not sure how I’m going to manage this


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:21 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:25 pm 
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Welcome home Son . ...................Once a Blueboy , always a Blueboy

A big name , a big club . Perfect fit . ..............Aura , presence .

Get around him ,get around him i'm telling you , all of you .

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:27 pm 
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My advice, Des, is to sit back and enjoy the off-season while Voss and Co get to work.
If you - like me - find it difficult to switch off, focus on the trading/drafting and hearing about how we are 'flying' on the training track and never been fitter/stronger etc...
Then, get back into it for Round 1 next year and, as we start to win more than we lose, I think your dislike of Voss will start to subside...
Hang in there :thumbsup:


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