I think this is a psychology issue. It's as if they don't want to try, just in case they lose because they wouldn't be able to handle embarrassment....it feels like they'd all rather just turn up and act as if they don't give shit ...cos that's cool...they didn't want to win anyway....

With regard to this game, Richmond and Melbourne also went out and capitulated ....we aren't the only team with trouble between the ears...I just don't know how we are going to address this weakness. Sometimes I feel like trading all our senior players and just starting with a completely blank canvas.....ahhhh buggered if I know.

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The problem will be made. for the solution to be sold, to your face before your eyes, tolerance is now the new danger

Get over it, I'd have thought we'd have more to be concerned about in our own club rather than trying to get a little satisfaction out of another clubs misery, I couldn't give a rats ass what Essendon* are doing or feeling, the only thing I care about is what's going to happen at Carlton during the off season and what we can bring to the table round 1 2017

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We are the maybe blues

We all know there is a shitload of deadwood at the club and there are players that have shown growth and ability, I thought we missed Charlie Curnow badly when he went down, losing murph was a disaster and I give full credit to Crippa and Gibbs for carrying the midfield all year.

We're not going to get rid of the deadwood and turn the club around in one season, it's just not gonna happen, the club are well aware that we need depth, BB keeps saying that ad nausem and we can't just burn the lot of it and replace, we have too many players that don't have the capacity to impact games, yet some of those blokes would be more than serviceable in a good side, here they don't have the quality around them, let's see what the off season brings and if we can improve on 7 wins, if someone had said to me at the end of last year you can have 7 wins next year I'd have taken it in a heart beat.

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We are the maybe blues

A voice with a bit of sanity and reason, BB has now got a year under his belt and will have a better idea of who he can work with and who is just a waste of time, and he'll have a much better idea than any of us keyboard geniuses who are jumping up and down like 3 year olds who have had their favorite toy taken off them, we complain about the old Carlton quick fix mentally, yet we're the worst at it. It has taken until this administration and this coach to get with the program of the AFL, which is developing your own, shit it could be a hell of a lot worse, our last flag was in 95, how would you like to be a Footscray, Melbourne, Richmond or St Kilda supporter, Jesus Melbourne's last flag was 2 months before I was born, I don't like the position we are in but you can blame the Carlton arrogance that we all display, we must understand that we are coming from a long way back, purely because we refused to change our ways

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We are the maybe blues

tbh ... i'll believe it when i see it.


ever since pagan, we've rarely strung together consecutive weeks of good football. we're consistently inconsistent and lazy.

right now, you can name on one hand the guys who can be counted on week after week, and one of them is simpson who's at the end.

We are escaping public criticism over a shocking performance because Melbourne and Richmond were ordinary
In my view we were worse than both at least Richmond and Melbourne were playing good sides

Deplorable effort and don't think they should be escaping scrutiny yes 7 games winning season is good overall but shocking against Brisbane and Essendon*
Doesn't matter whether we have Gerry Gee or Mick Malthouse coaching these efforts we not acceptable these efforts have been acceptable at Carlton for too long

Having to put up with Essendon* smugness after we let them get out of wooden spoon deplorable unacceptable
As I said a few weeks ago get better or piss off we are sick of wasting Saturday afternoons with these clowns giving half efforts

You think Bolts is accepting this?

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Some of you folks really need to take a deep breath and settle down.

If I see any Mad Monday photos of our players holding dildos or cross dressing I'll spew up.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Hopefully not Crimm but much too soft on them in press conference
Could have excoriated them amd made clear to the world that it is unacceptable

Don't think it hurts to show supporters that a team who has one won game out of 11 at the end of a season after losing to bottom two sides in the last 3 weeks that publiclly he isn't happy and that everyone is on notice that we must do better and those who have or will not get on board can go

I thought his presser clearly illustrated what is unacceptable going forward

excellent

I thought he opened up well.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

Glad you all thought thatI wanted more didn't I think reflected deep seated disappointment of supporters to lack of effort and adherence to game plan
Need to bring supporters with them in my view
They are at a tipping point if supporters like me been going over 50 years or so faithfully and bringing on a whole generation of supporters who go almost every week are having second thoughts we are in real trouble

Sick of half arsed efforts mealy mouthed excuses and poor inept performances DO SOMETHING

frank, I'm tipping Bolton will do something in the off-season

I totally get your frustration Frank.

Left the pub at 3qt no way I was gonna stay for that crap. Have other things to do with my time..

The saving grace this year was our winning streak mid year over Geelong, Port, good win over Melb and the development of Weitering, SOS, Curnow, Cripps and having Simmo, Doc and for the most part Gibbs leading from the front...

Our midfield depth is VERY AVERAGE at best but where was our defence last 5-6 weeks?

As you said Frank No! Not good enough after the performances against Cats and our 3 weeks good performances against Eagles, Swans and Hawks..

When one area(defence it midfield etc) break down it all breaks down for us, Bolts I'm sure will have some scathing reviews with a few..,

It just adds to the bittersweetness when you see the steps forward then steps backwards.

The stench of Mediocrity must be flushed out and destroyed ASAP...

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Corinthians 9:6- 8

Alas he chose to talk about setting higher standards in the off season when clearly a half baked incoherent rant with spittle flying over the assembled press corp was clearly the way to go.

Actually, scratch that, it's a pity Bolts didn't execute at least three players at the presser, it was the perfect forum to show guys like you he's serious . He owes you that much!

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Thomas you can count on. Not necessarily to be any good

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#DonTheStash

there's no doubting Thomas

I just want to see improvement in the on-field culture otherwise any changes won't have the same effect. Too often I've see Carlton turn up and not have a crack in the last 15 years. That must change or they'll be limited improvement.