This is where I disagree with most. I never blame umpires, it's a cop out. As for injuries they don't help but I believe the lack of depth and class is what has cost us. Against Freo it was Fyfe, last night Selwood. If those players had been on our side the result would of been the other way.

Can't fault the effort and the game style. It is as good as I have seen from a Carlton team in a long while. We just lack class. That ability to finish, to make the right decision under pressure, to understand what it takes to win. Get a few of those type players and it will be a very different story.

Rnd12 Scott press conference said in tight games it's good umpires let the game go and play on at 50/50 contests cos Menzel was robbed,

Rnd21 Scott press conference, happy for umpires to call delayed free from umpire 50m away if he thinks he can see it better than officiating umpire 10m away.

So the umpires is only good when it falls Geelongs way

Surely noone is suggesting Fyfe is ahead of Lucas? But that draft was a disaster. We had picks 11 and 12 and got mclean and lucas. I reckon 20 of the next 40 picks were all decent to ver good players. If we put names in a hat we wd have done better.

actually his team and his tactics with many, many injuries has been much better than hinkley.. who got 2 injuries and his team has walked off the cliff....

no interchange players to a big chunk of a game helped geelong get over the line and gifted them that win

blaming mm is laughable....

tired players who gave it their all will not be a machine.


as well as injuries on and off the park too many non contributers .

but oveRall . this is exactly the threshold expected

we all know the issues of the past decade regarding recruiting. I am as big a critic as anyone and believe it is still our biggest issue and the one stopping us from getting back to the top.

My question is have we addressed it and what are we to make sure we get it right?

It's was one really disgraceful decision. How does this happen twice against the same side?

This is where I disagree with most. I never blame umpires, it's a cop out. As for injuries they don't help but I believe the lack of depth and class is what has cost us. Against Freo it was Fyfe, last night Selwood. If those players had been on our side the result would of been the other way.

Can't fault the effort and the game style. It is as good as I have seen from a Carlton team in a long while. We just lack class. That ability to finish, to make the right decision under pressure, to understand what it takes to win. Get a few of those type players and it will be a very different story.

Malthouse then added that the umpires should be brave enough to pay free kicks late in games if they were warranted.


"I just think it doesn't matter what time of the day it is. You've got two very brave sides out there, it needs a brave decision [if] it's there to be free kicked," Malthouse said.

Well said. The lack of class in the bottom half of our side is telling.

When MM arrived my biggest hope was that he could get us to a place whereby at the very least we field a team of blokes who will do anything to win, punch above their weight, and play for the jumper.

I believe we're almost there in that regard.

Remember when the Pies made those GFs in the early 00's with what everyone said was a mediocre list.....I feel he's getting more out of so many players now than he was a year ago, just like he did at Collingwood back then.

Rowe has improved out of sight.
Gibbs is now an A grade midfielder, not the defensive HB Ratts turned him into
Murphy stepping up more and more every week
Judd no longer a battering ram
Good kids coming through....Menzel, Buckley, graham,
Yarran streets ahead of this time last year
Wood miles ahead if Warnock...sadly

We may have gone backwards on the ladder this year, but I reckon we are far better placed than we were a year ago.

wayne hughes........