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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:21 am 
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Wood got smashed in the ruck.

His around the ground work was slightly better than Warnock. Inside work the same if not worse.

Even result at best. That is being generous.


Did you watch the game? Wood took marks, tackled, ran and presented, the things Warnock has not done for weeks.


Yes I watched it very carefully. The job of being a ruckman was not done well by Cameron Wood. He was beaten at the centre square. He was beaten at the boundary line throw ins. When the contested ball came down when he was not beaten he was then beaten.

He took 7 marks. Kicked a goal marking against a dwarf. That is amazing.

Good luck to the bloke. But the best you can possibly say for tonight is that he broke even with what you would expect from Warnock. Which is an OK result for him. Needs to back it up.

Please do not pump up the wood too much? You are not a wood pumper?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:21 am 
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Really enjoyed the game. Great to hear the club song being sung in the final quarter.
Thought we were gone after half time when North came out firing, steadied well and didnt panic.
Gibbs was fantastic, Hendo great, i wish Waite could play like that every week.
Shame about Menzel, radio saying that he cant have a traditional reco as he has had lars. We all knew it would happen, he will probably be like Melcheski and have repeated operations. Fingers crossed it isnt but it would appear so. I didnt see it happen so was surprised when i heard the news.
We now have 13 days to enjoy this.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:26 am 
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Had a feeling about tonight. Trotted along to Etihad wearing about 8 layers and had an enjoyable evening.

verbs wrote:
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Can't Waite to watch this one.


Particularly because Waite won the watch!!!!!!


Well he Wood, wouldn't he.


Gee, you just about feel that Carlton Wood win this one if Waite would kick another goal, wouldn't you Den?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:33 am 
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Sadly, ive been in meetings all frigen day! :-(

Missed the whole game. But wrapped we've won.


But shattered that we might go into next weeks game with no Mezel and No Robbo. It probably means we'll bring back McLean! :mad:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:40 am 
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But i don't quite see how we can play Hendo / Waite and Levi in the same team?

Hendo is a tough one. Brilliant up forward but so important down back. Why can't he be a twin?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:42 am 
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The Yes Man wrote:
Taff wrote:
The Yes Man wrote:
Wood got smashed in the ruck.

His around the ground work was slightly better than Warnock. Inside work the same if not worse.

Even result at best. That is being generous.


Did you watch the game? Wood took marks, tackled, ran and presented, the things Warnock has not done for weeks.


Yes I watched it very carefully. The job of being a ruckman was not done well by Cameron Wood. He was beaten at the centre square. He was beaten at the boundary line throw ins. When the contested ball came down when he was not beaten he was then beaten.

He took 7 marks. Kicked a goal marking against a dwarf. That is amazing.

Good luck to the bloke. But the best you can possibly say for tonight is that he broke even with what you would expect from Warnock. Which is an OK result for him. Needs to back it up.

Please do not pump up the wood too much? You are not a wood pumper?


We are coming off a very low base and it was great to see a ruckman in a Carlton jumper make a significant contribution to the team effort. An aspect that has been missing for so long.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:44 am 
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"Make no mistake. North played a very very good football side tonight."




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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:50 am 
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The Yes Man wrote:
Taff wrote:
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Wood got smashed in the ruck.

His around the ground work was slightly better than Warnock. Inside work the same if not worse.

Even result at best. That is being generous.


Did you watch the game? Wood took marks, tackled, ran and presented, the things Warnock has not done for weeks.


Yes I watched it very carefully. The job of being a ruckman was not done well by Cameron Wood. He was beaten at the centre square. He was beaten at the boundary line throw ins. When the contested ball came down when he was not beaten he was then beaten.

He took 7 marks. Kicked a goal marking against a dwarf. That is amazing.

Good luck to the bloke. But the best you can possibly say for tonight is that he broke even with what you would expect from Warnock. Which is an OK result for him. Needs to back it up.

Please do not pump up the wood too much? You are not a wood pumper?



I am a Warnock fan but after his last few weeks I understood giving then other bloke a go.

For a guy playing his first senior game of footy in a couple of years & matched up against one of the better ruckman in the comp, Wood did pretty well. Yes he lost the hitout count but it's hardly like we were slaughtered in the midfield.

I'm more of a wood pecker than a pumper btw

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:50 am 
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I thought we were headed for another 'honourable loss' at 3/4 time, but the last quarter was a pleasant surprise.

Backline was good tonight. As others have said, Rowe is a much improved player and had a good game.

Nice to have some tall forwards catching it and kicking reasonable straight.

I enjoyed Graham's cameo.

I don't think there was a great deal in the Robbo report. He SHOULD be OK, but who knows what they will do....

Fingers crossed it's not a long term lay off for Menzel & Everitt. I won't mind if they don't play again this season, but fingers crossed we have some luck with injury and they are right for the start of the preseason.

Wood was soundly beaten in the ruck, but his around the ground work was decent. A fit and in form Warnock or Kreuzer would pants him IMO. Credit it to him and at the worst he is a handy stop gap.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:50 am 
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bluedog wrote:
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Really pleased for Rowe. Great underdogs game.


:clap: :clap: :clap:


Don't think I've ever seen this much improvement in such a short time from any player in the history of the game.


:clap: :clap: :clap:


Essendon* had about 34 improve a bit in a short time... :wink:


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:29 am 
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I love the way that Gibbs has become a contested ball beast :thumbsup: he can only get better over the next few years.

Rowe and a White are becoming very dependable in the back half. It's not all bad for the years to come.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:35 am 
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Taff wrote:

great to see a ruckman in a Carlton jumper make a significant contribution to the team effort.


Really?

You have very low expectations.

Wood failed as a ruckman and also as an option around the ground in the packs and outside.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:40 am 
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I love the way that Gibbs has become a contested ball beast :thumbsup:


If only he was allowed to do the same in the early stages of his career?

If instead of being told to be a tagger or to play HBF for his first 100 games?

Imagine how much of a midfield contested beast GIBBS would be now given a CHANCE in the guts.

Ratten and the other coaches let players like GIBBS rot away from where they play their best football at the same time as giving Jordan Russell 100 games in the Carlton guernsey.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:42 am 
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Jordan Russell played HBF.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:46 am 
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Jordan Russell played HBF.


He did.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:48 am 
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I can't always tell how important ruck knocks are but surely a ruckman who provides marking options as either a get out of gaol kick, forward target or defensive hole filler is something we don't seem to have.

He also seems a bit quicker to get he ball to boot and hand. Also seems to be able to take more of the game in.

I think Warnock has been very good and it's only recently he's fallen away but it is nice to have a guy who can do the other things as well.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:49 am 
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The Yes Man wrote:
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Jordan Russell played HBF.


He did.


So it hardly mattered if Russell played 1 game or 100. Zero impact on Gibbs. Redundant reasoning. Red herring. Irrelevant. Nuts.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:59 am 
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verbs wrote:
The Yes Man wrote:
verbs wrote:
Jordan Russell played HBF.


He did.


So it hardly mattered if Russell played 1 game or 100. Zero impact on Gibbs. Redundant reasoning. Red herring. Irrelevant. Nuts.


Can you quote where I said Russell played HBF for 100 games?

Redundant reasoning needs some reasoning to make it redundant.

Thought a debt collector would know that.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:03 am 
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The Yes Man wrote:
verbs wrote:
The Yes Man wrote:
verbs wrote:
Jordan Russell played HBF.


He did.


So it hardly mattered if Russell played 1 game or 100. Zero impact on Gibbs. Redundant reasoning. Red herring. Irrelevant. Nuts.


Can you quote where I said Russell played HBF for 100 games?

Redundant reasoning needs some reasoning to make it redundant.

Thought a debt collector would know that.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:12 am 
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I sit on level 2 in the pocket where Graham kicked his goal. It was highlight of the night for me. Also, a thing you get a better appreciation of by being present, was the work rate. They all worked themselves into the ground. Very pleasing night.

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