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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:27 pm 
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Effes wrote:
OUT: Warnock, Walker, Johnson

IN: Wood, Menzel, Robinson

Ziebell, McDonald in for Mullett, McKenzie.


Hey Effes, any idea if 206 is injured or omitted ?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:28 pm 
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Definitely omitted.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:29 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
Effes wrote:
OUT: Warnock, Walker, Johnson

IN: Wood, Menzel, Robinson

Ziebell, McDonald in for Mullett, McKenzie.


Hey Effes, any idea if 206 is injured or omitted ?


The Blues have selected the former Collingwood big man, who has spent 2014 in the VFL, dropping Robert Warnock after he was convincingly beaten by Sydney Swans opponent Mike Pyke in round 17.

From le afl site

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:32 pm 
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Wonder if he'll be the sub

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:32 pm 
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HTP wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Effes wrote:
OUT: Warnock, Walker, Johnson

IN: Wood, Menzel, Robinson

Ziebell, McDonald in for Mullett, McKenzie.


Hey Effes, any idea if 206 is injured or omitted ?


The Blues have selected the former Collingwood big man, who has spent 2014 in the VFL, dropping Robert Warnock after he was convincingly beaten by Sydney Swans opponent Mike Pyke in round 17.

From le afl site


lets see if he plays in the 2s... ?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:33 pm 
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How things change. About 8 months ago we had posts saying "WTF, why have we picked up that ex-Collingwood hack/dud" etc etc

Now he is a 'kid' (at 27 y.o. & his 3rd AFL club, he's hardly a kid, by the way) who we think will make a difference for us.....

Not saying he shouldn't get a run with us, but it speaks to the fickle nature of footy following.

FWIW, I thought he was a smart choice in the rookie draft for us at the time and he's been terrific in the VFL. However, my expectations of him making a significant impact for us are moderate.


It is not Wood personally. Wood has been a very bad choice. You only pick these players if you think you might have a chance for a flag. I picked blues to finish bottom four this year before the season started which is why I said it was a bad choice at the time we drafted him. At a time when we have no young talent we should not be picking anyone over the age of 22.

We should only be picking players who could play 10 years for us. Instead of giving a young developing ruckmen a go now we have Wood. Our development for the next senior ruckmen has lost a year.

I would like to know who do you think will be 10 year players running around in the magoos, and have not been given a go?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:35 pm 
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CARLTON

B Michael Jamison, Sam Rowe, Zach Tuohy
HB Chris Yarran, Kade Simpson, Andrejs Everitt
C Nick Graham, Chris Judd, Mitch Robinson
HF Dale Thomas, Levi Casboult, Brock McLean
F Marc Murphy, Lachie Henderson, Troy Menzel
FOL Cameron Wood, Bryce Gibbs, Ed Curnow
I/C David Ellard, Tom Bell, Sam Docherty, Simon White
EMG Jarrad Waite, Jeff Garlett, Blaine Johnson
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Cameron Wood, Mitch Robinson, Troy Menzel
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Andrew Walker (Knee), Robert Warnock (Omitted), Blaine Johnson (Omitted)


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:39 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:
The issue about Wood is that it indicates how poor Warnock is that we would be considering Wood. We gave up 2 picks for Warnock, one of them a second rounder in a very strong draft , we have paid a big salary to, he has managed about 60 games in 6 seasons and takes about one contested mark every 3 months and he is likely to be replaced by a ruckman who is at his third club and was back in the VFL last year. It says a lot about Warnock. He had the big chance this year as first ruck. All he does is hit the ball to contests. Another poor recruiting decision, and Sammy J is close to the best ruck in the AFL.


who dat?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:41 pm 
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simmo at CHB :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:43 pm 
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Make Thomas sub and give Graham and Menzel full games.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:46 pm 
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Blue Beatle wrote:
gerry atric wrote:
The issue about Wood is that it indicates how poor Warnock is that we would be considering Wood. We gave up 2 picks for Warnock, one of them a second rounder in a very strong draft , we have paid a big salary to, he has managed about 60 games in 6 seasons and takes about one contested mark every 3 months and he is likely to be replaced by a ruckman who is at his third club and was back in the VFL last year. It says a lot about Warnock. He had the big chance this year as first ruck. All he does is hit the ball to contests. Another poor recruiting decision, and Sammy J is close to the best ruck in the AFL.


who dat?


Pick 24, Freo took Suban. Hannerbry, Redden, Sloan and Beams were also still available at that pick.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:55 pm 
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bluechampion wrote:
CARLTON

B Michael Jamison, Sam Rowe, Zach Tuohy
HB Chris Yarran, Kade Simpson, Andrejs Everitt
C Nick Graham, Chris Judd, Mitch Robinson
HF Dale Thomas, Levi Casboult, Brock McLean
F Marc Murphy, Lachie Henderson, Troy Menzel
FOL Cameron Wood, Bryce Gibbs, Ed Curnow
I/C David Ellard, Tom Bell, Sam Docherty, Simon White
EMG Jarrad Waite, Jeff Garlett, Blaine Johnson
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Cameron Wood, Mitch Robinson, Troy Menzel
OUT
Andrew Walker (Knee), Robert Warnock (Omitted), Blaine Johnson (Omitted)


Don't mind that team - maybe Garlett or Johnson for Menzel if he doesn't come up. C'mon Cam, give us something in the ruck, son. Ellard lucky that Buckley will need a run for the NB's this week.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:57 pm 
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Good decision to drop Warnock.

Im happy if that was the last we saw of him really.
Best of luck to Wood. We need him to work out. It would be great to have a consistent ruckman.

Great to see Menzel back too. Ditto Robbo who i think for all his faults, has shown something this year.


With that said....................... we're still [REDACTED]! :sad:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:06 pm 
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Trigger wrote:
I would like to know who do you think will be 10 year players running around in the magoos, and have not been given a go?


There are not that many and that is the issue I raise and the clubs issue. It is not about Wood. For example in the rookie draft I wanted ex GWS player Miles. 21 year old ball magnet and will be a 10 year player at Richmond. Since he has got his opportunity at Richmond he has averaged just under 30 possessions a game. These are the sort of players we should focus on in the rookie draft or players who have a bit of X-Factor.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:11 pm 
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Clayman wrote:
Trigger wrote:
I would like to know who do you think will be 10 year players running around in the magoos, and have not been given a go?


There are not that many and that is the issue I raise and the clubs issue. It is not about Wood. For example in the rookie draft I wanted ex GWS player Miles. 21 year old ball magnet and will be a 10 year player at Richmond. Since he has got his opportunity at Richmond he has averaged just under 30 possessions a game. These are the sort of players we should focus on in the rookie draft or players who have a bit of X-Factor.


Miles looks like a good pick up by the tigers. He's been quite impressive since he's been in the team.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:13 pm 
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Tom Nicholls is out of contract at the Gold Coast; very promising young ruck - hopefully the club target him. As he is out of contract Carlton could get him relatively cheap via threatening GC with the PSD.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:20 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
HTP wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Effes wrote:
OUT: Warnock, Walker, Johnson

IN: Wood, Menzel, Robinson

Ziebell, McDonald in for Mullett, McKenzie.


Hey Effes, any idea if 206 is injured or omitted ?


The Blues have selected the former Collingwood big man, who has spent 2014 in the VFL, dropping Robert Warnock after he was convincingly beaten by Sydney Swans opponent Mike Pyke in round 17.

From le afl site


lets see if he plays in the 2s... ?

Named for Northern .


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:21 pm 
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bax wrote:
Blue Beatle wrote:
gerry atric wrote:
The issue about Wood is that it indicates how poor Warnock is that we would be considering Wood. We gave up 2 picks for Warnock, one of them a second rounder in a very strong draft , we have paid a big salary to, he has managed about 60 games in 6 seasons and takes about one contested mark every 3 months and he is likely to be replaced by a ruckman who is at his third club and was back in the VFL last year. It says a lot about Warnock. He had the big chance this year as first ruck. All he does is hit the ball to contests. Another poor recruiting decision, and Sammy J is close to the best ruck in the AFL.


who dat?


Pick 24, Freo took Suban. Hannerbry, Redden, Sloan and Beams were also still available at that pick.

You know we wouldn't have taken them if we had a pick. We rated Robbo top 10 and pounced at pick 40. We would've just thane him earlier :donk:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:25 pm 
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Clayman wrote:
Trigger wrote:
I would like to know who do you think will be 10 year players running around in the magoos, and have not been given a go?


There are not that many and that is the issue I raise and the clubs issue. It is not about Wood. For example in the rookie draft I wanted ex GWS player Miles. 21 year old ball magnet and will be a 10 year player at Richmond. Since he has got his opportunity at Richmond he has averaged just under 30 possessions a game. These are the sort of players we should focus on in the rookie draft or players who have a bit of X-Factor.

Totally agree, but unfortunately we have ballsed up over the last upteen years and we expect miracles to come from the magoos. It will not happen.We have done better in the rookie draft than the normal draft that says enough.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:26 pm 
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emtwenty wrote:
bax wrote:
Blue Beatle wrote:
gerry atric wrote:
The issue about Wood is that it indicates how poor Warnock is that we would be considering Wood. We gave up 2 picks for Warnock, one of them a second rounder in a very strong draft , we have paid a big salary to, he has managed about 60 games in 6 seasons and takes about one contested mark every 3 months and he is likely to be replaced by a ruckman who is at his third club and was back in the VFL last year. It says a lot about Warnock. He had the big chance this year as first ruck. All he does is hit the ball to contests. Another poor recruiting decision, and Sammy J is close to the best ruck in the AFL.


who dat?


Pick 24, Freo took Suban. Hannerbry, Redden, Sloan and Beams were also still available at that pick.

You know we wouldn't have taken them if we had a pick. We rated Robbo top 10 and pounced at pick 40. We would've just thane him earlier :donk:


Who needs those chumps. We got Robbo and Big Knockers!

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