yeah the port is carlton or geelong argument has been done to death here.
was fried and busted a long time ago for the embarassment that it was

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The only embarassment is Million dollar Mick has us 4 and 9 soon to be 10
And on 5aa says they have improved just not getting wins
FMD couldnt believe the spin

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its not an embarrassment for Hinkley - he worked hard to get the port playing list up to speed over the 2012 pre season - we pissed it up against the wall and fell behind. Then repeated the dose the following year.

Did Primus destroy Port Power like Ratts destroyed carlton or is Primus a genius, like Tim Watson and Ian Thorougood?

Life is beautiful Mr S, given enough time it spews up lovely paired, decoupled and couple examples for everyone to see and analyse for themsellves. The Power/Carlton 2012 crossroads is a very good example to analyse - there is only ONE reason anybody would ignore it - isnt there Mr S?

What about the Scott twins example - one goes to the cats, the other to North Melbourne - Chris wins his first 13 games, loses 2 games for the year and pulls off a great victory in the 2011 GF against the reigning premiers the pies. Although he had some help from his opposing coach. Mick sat in his box waiting for Hawkins to totally monster poor young Reid, before moving him int he last quarter when the game was over. Then he kept Didak on Scarlett all day, and wouldnt even sub him out of the game. Good to have faith in your players Mr S, but winning the game is also important.

I like Mick Malthouse as a coach but his stubborness and arrogance since arriving at carlton has caused problems which shouldnt occur - especially from someone with his experience.

have a read of this
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/nothin ... 6567303294

a sneak preview

Nothing elite about Port Adelaide list according to AFL Prospectus

February 2, 2013 (prior to Hinkleys first game as senior coach)

PORT Adelaide fans sick of hearing a call for patience are in for more pain before the gain according to a damning list assessment in the 2013 AFL Prospectus.

Football's annual statistical bible, compiled by Champion Data, rates the Power as having the second-worst list in the competition, ahead of only GWS.

This is what Hinkley inherited Mr S

THE Power's 2013 player list is rated the second worst in the competition, 17th of the 18 teams and ahead of only GWS.

THE Power's defence is rated the worst in the competition and its forwardline the second-worst.

PORT is one of only two clubs along with GWS without an `elite' ranked player on its list. To be considered elite, a player would be ranked in the top 10 per cent of their position type in the league. West Coast has seven considered in the elite category while Collingwood, Richmond and Hawthorn each have six.

IT HAS seven players ranked in the top 35 per cent of their position, three fewer than any other established club.

THE Power is ranked 17th in the competition for tackles and applying pressure outside clearance situations.

[FRYBIE]

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...and what did Mick inherit compared to Hinkley at the end of 2012?

well take a quick look ladies and gentlemen (these rankings are based upon hard cold statistics NOT opinions from so called experts such as Tony Shaw and Rohan Connolly and Robbo clowns)

CARLTON
Defenders 14th
Midfield/Rucks 3rd
Forwards 2nd
LIST QUALITY 9th

PORT ADELAIDE
Defenders 18th
Midfield/Rucks 12th
Forwards 17th
LIST QUALITY 17th

It seems that the main thing Mick needed to do in the short term, to our list was improve our defense which was ranked 14th in the league.

I wonder if our Forwards and Mids/Rucks are still ranked 2nd and 3rd respectively???

Hawthorn's mids/Rucks were ranked 9th in the league at the end of 2012. But their list was rated Number 1, and their Defenders 2nd and forwards 1st. (They chased ratten to improve their midfield and stoppages, areas which ratten was actually quite good at - gee I wonder who won the 2013 GF??)

One of the reasons our forwards were ranked 2nd, even after an injury riddled year, was Eddie Betts - the competitions most defensive forward. Of course Mick couldnt find a spot for poor old Eddie, couldnt find the 90k to keep him here. And Swann didnt seem too interested in trying - he was very busy writing up a nice 700k/year retirement package for Daisy.

No other team would fork out 1 million for Mick as senior coach, appoint Wiley out of his depth as Director of coaching and development on 400k, and pay 700k/year for Daisy who had an injury cloud and isnt a KPP anyway.

Dont think Ken Hinkley would have done that if he took over at Princes park - and we would have saved 600k per year and had a different coaching and development director.

we will still beat the pies this week, should do well in the remaining games

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Absolutely ridiculous

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Cret is spot on
Its all there for you to see cant argue with cold hard facts
Not heresay they are statistical facts

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Some good points IMO

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I just can't believe how well Hinkley has done.
I never thought their list was ranked 17th though.
I think they did a Collingwood. Down for a couple of years, get some draft picks then shoot back up.
The majority of their list were there when they were ranked 17th.

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dane.. yeah i never read anything more ridiculous ....made me giggle like a schoolgirl

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Yes Ladies and Gentlemen

NOBODY in the Football world rated Port's list above Carlton's at the end of 2012 when Hinkley and Mick took up their senior coaching posts.

Champion DATA also confirmed these Global expert opinions. (they also predicted that the Hawks are shoe ins to win the 2013 GF with the number 1 ranked list, EVEN though their midfield/Rucks were ranked below us at 9th. But they recruited the GREAT Brett ratten to improve their midfield and stoppages didnt they. That was their weakness exposed by the Swans in the previous GF loss and that what they addressed that ver well ladies and gentlemen)

CHAMPION DATA 2012

CARLTON
Defenders 14th
Midfield/Rucks 3rd
Forwards 2nd
LIST QUALITY 9th

PORT ADELAIDE
Defenders 18th
Midfield/Rucks 12th
Forwards 17th
LIST QUALITY 17th


One needs to wonder whether Mr S believes that the Great Primus destroyed Port Power like Ratts destroyed carlton??

Or was the Genius of Primus responsible for how Port have traveled since Hinkley took over??.

Its so difficult for me to judge who is the better performed coach. I realise that the AFLCA voted Hinkley the "Coach of the Year" in 2013, but maybe I should check with tony Shaw first or Robbo, maybe they know something secret about the Great Primus...

Gee its a hard choice between these two since 2012 ladies and gentlemen...

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Are you saying champion data is flawed?

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....no, just our club since our senior and reserves coaches weren't on speaking terms

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Its going to be interesting by the end of the year when Melbourne Brisbane Richmond and maybe Stklida and GWS go past us
But they all have better lust dont they

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More lusty lists they have.

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Article on AFL website abouts sums up Malthouse
Living in the past

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Which one?

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Come on guys, be realistic, we all knew at the start of the year that our list, in terms of talent, was somewhere between Bendigo Gold and the Yarrawonga Pigeons and that it would take a coach of unparalleled genius to get us within ten goals of any other side, let alone win a game. Fortunately our coach is an unparalleled genius, if you don't believe me just ask him. The worse we go, the worse our list becomes. It'll be inferior to a little league side by year's end. The alternative is to criticise Mighty Mick and that is not on. It's not like we are a club with a history of hasty, lazy, ill concieved appointments.

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