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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:25 pm 
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I think Murphy would have helped us get over the line.
We needed another mid with a bit of zip.
But even if we won by a point, it would have been against a bottom team made up of kids in the main.

The GWS were just too fast for Carrots and Brock.

Its not the team's fault the MC selected a slow team.

The 2 players I was most disappointed with were Walker and Warnock.

Walker is no longer my favourite player so I'll say it as I see it:

Ever since he signed his latest 3 years contract Walker has been happy to be collecting his pay and that's about it.
His decison making is terrible. His kicking below average.
He kicked the ball to 2 on 1's and 3 on 1's and believe me he had options screaming at him in better positions.
There was no way the crowd noise made it difficult because I could hear our players calling for him to pass from the stands.

Walker has either lost a yard or doesnt give 100%. He gave up shases. OMG!!!

Warnock doesnt try after each bounce or ball up. Absolute liability and passenger.

Docherty too made many bad choices with his disposal and direction...under no pressure till he put himself there.

Jammo and Rowe did really well in defense imo, against MONSTERS. Patton is a monster and only Jammo could beat him.
White did well too.

Hendo is not fit.

Simmo was blanketed.

We played slow, fumbly footy and I also believe we were out coached with the tags etc.

Everitt is a player!!!
Yarran...do not trade him. He's all class.
Juddy did well whilst tagged.

Geez we're slow in the legs and in moving the ball.

Im kind of getting use to losing so it didnt hurt as much as it hurt my kids, but even they were instructed to get use to it and find enjoyment with the atmosphere and the good passages of play. We have become the new StKilda, Richmond, Footscray and Melbourne. I hope the Commission do recognise our VFA flags coz they re the only ones we will be getting for the next 5-10 years....or more.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:38 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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Shane Mumford... 55 hitouts - 18 disposals - 9 tackles


Warnock made no effort after each bounce to get to a contest.

Pathetic.

Watch this guy jog to the next contest and I tell you I can walk faster.

In one instance when he could see the GWS were working the ball forward on the wing with only option left at HF was to bomb it to the goal square, he could easily have made the contest but he decided to jog towards the area, only having to jog back to the middle after they took the mark and goaled.

How useless and dumb is that. Why bother wasting energy pretending you're heading to a contest if you dont intend to get to the contest?

Pathetic, and typical of a bloke happy to be collecting his pay packet whether he tries or not.
His spot is not in jeopardy.




meanwhile Sam Jacobs would be leading the B and F at Adelaide
Worst trade in the clubs history
Mick Mansfield for Paul Chapman 2nd worst


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:54 pm 
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keogh wrote:
meanwhile Sam Jacobs would be leading the B and F at Adelaide
Worst trade in the clubs history
Mick Mansfield for Paul Chapman 2nd worst

Closely followed by Craig Devonport for the pick the Sts used to get Barry Hall. I think the most indicative of our operation is getting Brock McLean for a first rounder the same year the Swans got Josh Kennedy for a third rounder.

Sammy J wanted to get a game before he wanted to go home. It was lack of opportunity not homesickness that took him back to Adelaide and he and a fit Big K would be a good combo, not to mention the 2 draft picks we gave up for Warnock and the way to high salary he has been getting for playing about ten games a year. We should have paid him on marks, so $100k per contested mark, be a very cheap contract. Suban, Redden, Hannebery Beams, Walters, Shiel, Rory Sloane, Jordan Roughead, ....they were all there waiting to be picked after the #24 we gave up for Warnock. In fact that draft went very deep, even the Blues might have managed a decent pick had we retained pick 24.

Ratts made some awful trading decisions.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:55 pm 
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Retrospective drafting wooooo!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:01 pm 
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dane wrote:
Retrospective drafting wooooo!


Its worse than that! Its a trend.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:09 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:
keogh wrote:
meanwhile Sam Jacobs would be leading the B and F at Adelaide
Worst trade in the clubs history
Mick Mansfield for Paul Chapman 2nd worst

Closely followed by Craig Devonport for the pick the Sts used to get Barry Hall. I think the most indicative of our operation is getting Brock McLean for a first rounder the same year the Swans got Josh Kennedy for a third rounder.

Sammy J wanted to get a game before he wanted to go home. It was lack of opportunity not homesickness that took him back to Adelaide and he and a fit Big K would be a good combo, not to mention the 2 draft picks we gave up for Warnock and the way to high salary he has been getting for playing about ten games a year. We should have paid him on marks, so $100k per contested mark, be a very cheap contract. Suban, Redden, Hannebery Beams, Walters, Shiel, Rory Sloane, Jordan Roughead, ....they were all there waiting to be picked after the #24 we gave up for Warnock. In fact that draft went very deep, even the Blues might have managed a decent pick had we retained pick 24.

Ratts made some awful trading decisions.



Jacobs was getting a game. He played in the 2010 final against Sydney and then requested a trade home.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:11 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:
keogh wrote:
meanwhile Sam Jacobs would be leading the B and F at Adelaide
Worst trade in the clubs history
Mick Mansfield for Paul Chapman 2nd worst

Closely followed by Craig Devonport for the pick the Sts used to get Barry Hall. I think the most indicative of our operation is getting Brock McLean for a first rounder the same year the Swans got Josh Kennedy for a third rounder.

Sammy J wanted to get a game before he wanted to go home. It was lack of opportunity not homesickness that took him back to Adelaide and he and a fit Big K would be a good combo, not to mention the 2 draft picks we gave up for Warnock and the way to high salary he has been getting for playing about ten games a year. We should have paid him on marks, so $100k per contested mark, be a very cheap contract. Suban, Redden, Hannebery Beams, Walters, Shiel, Rory Sloane, Jordan Roughead, ....they were all there waiting to be picked after the #24 we gave up for Warnock. In fact that draft went very deep, even the Blues might have managed a decent pick had we retained pick 24.

Ratts made some awful trading decisions.


And our drafting record suggests that if we had that draft pick which Geelong used to get Chapman we would have done the same thing? :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:14 pm 
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Look guys. The problem is that we forced Sam Jacobs out.
He wanted to stay, but we said hit the road. Go home to your family you red haired scumbag.
He is a superstar. If we had him we may have 17 or more flags.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:19 pm 
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I actually think it's deeper than that. I think we're gingerist.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:44 pm 
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dane wrote:
Look guys. The problem is that we forced Sam Jacobs out.
He wanted to stay, but we said hit the road. Go home to your family you red haired scumbag.
He is a superstar. If we had him we may have 17 or more flags.



we do, we have 22 :smoking:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:47 pm 
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Heavs wrote:
I actually think it's deeper than that. I think we're gingerist.


With all the past players we want for off field roles I've always wondered why Lance doesn't get a gig.
I understand now.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:56 pm 
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Now I understand why bluehammer's no longer a mod...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:57 pm 
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Yes retrospective drafting is very easy, but at the time I didn't want to get Warnock and felt we overinvested in big, one position rucks at the expense of other positions. And have a look at the 2008 draft http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_AFL_Draft You could have put the names of picks 24 to 55 on a dart board and have a 2 in 3 chance of getting a decent to very good player. I think it is more about Carlton's mindset of giving up way to much for players form other clubs and performing poorly in the National Draft. And Warnock has only averaged 10 games a year, its not like he stepped straight in as a number 1 ruckman.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:00 pm 
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Now I understand why bluehammer's no longer a mod...


Not sure how tin tin has survived so long as your avatar.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:06 pm 
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You watch. Now Mitch has stopped hiding that filth on top of his bonce and looks like he is actually growing it out he will be straight out the door at the end of the season.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:55 pm 
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To me ihave been saying all year and probs last year as well.Our game plan get ball and boot it like under 10 footy and hope we mark it.I could coach against carlton because we are predictable and very basic. when does pre season start we have to change game plan andtrain to be fitter and stronger .


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:58 pm 
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Half our list couldn't hit the side of a barn........from inside the barn.

Fast, slow, it doesn't matter when half your disposals don't hit the target. We were running at 54% disposal efficiency at one stage. Hilarious that people who get paid hundreds of thousands of $$$ to kick a ball around can't actually do it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:17 pm 
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Heavs wrote:
I actually think it's deeper than that. I think we're gingerist.


I've heard rumours the trainers refused to rub Sam Jacobs down.

In twenty years time, we're going to rue ever inadvertently starting the Sam Jacobs Society.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:19 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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Great venue the Giants have; good public transport and some atmosphere even with not many there


Only 9000 at the game, but there was a bit of a buzz around the ground and not a bad atmosphere.

When the GWS start their 5 year stretch to win their 18 games a season they will fill the joint and the atmosphere will be giant.

I really liked the stadium.



Agree Bondi, would have to be one of the best stadiums in the comp.

Leaves Shitihad for dead

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:46 pm 
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chubbyruss wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Effes wrote:
Great venue the Giants have; good public transport and some atmosphere even with not many there


Only 9000 at the game, but there was a bit of a buzz around the ground and not a bad atmosphere.

When the GWS start their 5 year stretch to win their 18 games a season they will fill the joint and the atmosphere will be giant.

I really liked the stadium.



Agree Bondi, would have to be one of the best stadiums in the comp.

Leaves Shitihad for dead



I still can't fathom what the afl have done for gold coast and GWS ... just giving them blue chip prospects on top of blue chip prospects and at the detriment of every other club.

I remember when Jacksonville in the NFL and Minnesota in the NHL became expansion teams. Each team in the league would nominate a handful of players for the expansion draft. The teams would get compensation draft picks, but not handed the keys to the future just like that.

It's a real dampener on the interest to afl for me at least. In 3 years when it's the suns and giants in every GF for half a decade and everyone else playing for 3rd ... I wonder if the AFL'll regret their decision? Throw in the tv deal and dying attendances and wow, just wow.


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