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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:07 pm 
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Was so compromised, that most Clubs got nothing out of that draft if you look back at it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:13 pm 
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I'm a retrospective draft expert.

3 draftees playing from the top 3 or 4rounds of the last 5 years....
you didnt have to be a draft expert to improve those drafts
a computer generated ticket in a chinese fortune cookie would have improved our standing

question....
is bootsma another one of our project first round picks?
one we have to strip weight off.. or put weight on... or improve speed .. endurance?
anything wrong with getting a solid footballer with that pick and holding back on the projects for rookie listed picks?

who the hell are our recruiters trying to impress??? :yikes:

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:14 pm 
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Don't thinkanybody would be impressed by our recruiting

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
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Agree we should only draft Victorian players like Bradley Hill



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 Post subject: Re: Re: Bootsma Sacked!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:24 pm 
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Manchego Cheese wrote:
If everyone who sent snapchats of their Johnson was fired unemployment would be at 60%.

I'll tell you something that you might find unbelievable......... I've never done it. Here are some other things that I've never done which most AFL footballers will find absolutely unbelievable.

1. I've never been arrested for D & D, despite drinking at pubs for around 45 years.
2. I've never gotten into a brawl despite going out to the city, to pubs, to the footy for around 47 years.
3. I've never grabbed a strange girl's beasts on the street.
4. I've never called ASADA "ASDA".

WTF is with these guys?? Do you have to hand in half your brain cells when you get drafted? OMFG!!

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 Post subject: Re: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:27 pm 
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Dear Carlton members,

The club has taken the decision to part with defender Josh Bootsma, following inappropriate use of something called ‘social media’.

This decision has not been taken lightly and has followed a thorough process.

The first step, was Andrew McKay knocking on my door and telling me that Josh Bootsma had breached club policy regarding social media.

I told Andrew I didn’t understand any words in that sentence.

‘Who’s Josh Bootsma?’ I asked and he reminded me he was a ‘defender’ for the Northern Blues.

‘That curly haired guy?’ I asked.

Andrew said social media was popular with the young people, which alarmed me.

I told him we had no place for communists at Carlton or in Australia for that matter.

He was quick to point out it is ‘social’ not ‘socialist’ and is mainly people posting pictures of what they just ate or updating people on banal things like how hot or cold the weather is.

We quickly called in some consultants to brief me on Twitter, Snapchat and Faceplace. After twelve hours of listening to these eleven-year-olds, I think I really got a handle on it.

Anyway, apparently Bootsma’s been putting inappropriate material on the social medias.

This is something that is apparently against the Carlton’s and the AFL’s ‘proper use of social media’ policy.

It baffles me that doing these things need to be spelt out at all.

What ever happened to romance? If I was a young guy, the only people I’d be tweeting are a girl’s parents, to ask permission to take their daughter to a dance.

While we won’t exactly miss Bootsma on the field, it’s another reminder that society is going to hell in a hand basket. Or as I know like to say LOL (I think that fits in there).

Mick Malthouse

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
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Me, I love grabbing a strange girls beasts..

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
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Better hold on Megaman!

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
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The 2011 draft is a wasteland so far (aside from the GWS picks). We might actually have one of the better players in the draft with us now in Sam Docherty.


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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:56 pm 
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AGRO wrote:
Josh Bootsma is automatically elevated to Legend Status as one our greatest ever first round draft picks.

:roll:


Although Murray Vance and Stephen Edgar are making bold claims.


Great nominations, but I will always have a soft spot for Livo :donk:


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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:17 pm 
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Recruitment is only half the battle.

Development and exposure to strong leadership and club culture is paramount.

This is why you see players like Duncan enter the Geelong system, or Malchevski enter the Swans system and turn out to be effective players. Or a Suckling or Breust enter the Hawks system.

When a Tambling gets put the through the Tiger mill or a Jack Watts finds himself at a Melbourne you tend to get underperformance and poor end results. (They can be turned around sometimes, Watts under the Roos regime is showing a lot more this year, actually played an important role in the demons win against the tigers a few weeks back).

Sometimes you get those players that only know how to play one way. They are self driven or play with a passion for the game like Maclean, Ellard and Henderson or just have Big hearts Like Simpson. They get the best out of themselves and do the team things right.

It really shouldn't surprise anyone that many of the players that enter our system struggle, don't reach their potential or even fail.

A good example is Watson. Eternally criticized by many supporters. Is it fair though?

Watson is of a similar build to Brian Lake and can kick better.

Its still a dynamic sport and there is room for all types of players.

Look at the Swans this year. They will go close again in September and their game plan and structures look very similar to that of Hawthorn in 2008. The twin towers have moved to the harbor courtesy of AFL HOUSE ladies and gentlemen

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
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has it really been 100 days already?


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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
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Punter22 wrote:
has it really been 100 days already?


No. August 17th 9:25am

But I have access to exemption permits. Bit costly though.

But I bought a packet of 10

Just used one up - @#$%&! hell


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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
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Donation to charity I believe was requested.

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
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Donation to charity I believe was requested.


Yes Asthma foundation of Victoria.

Another one gone, only about 5 left.

I will save the rest for the show cause letters

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:22 am 
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I posted about Josh's struggles back in April. I won't go into much detail but some of issues stem from feeling isolated and somewhat bullied as he was basically the kid everyone hung s h i t on and it led to feeling very frustrated. It's no excuse for why he did

This is what I wrote back in April. There was another comment I posted but I can't find it.......

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I'd like to see Bootsma get some more games, until Docherty is ready. May well not make it at AFL level, but he's one of our few genuinely talented kids we've got on our list.


Bootsma will never play again for the navy blue. And this has nothing to do with his ability more to do with a falling out with some senior players which I classify as school yard bullying by them


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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
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His papers were stamped a long time ago due to an incident involving he and Mick and some back chat.


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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
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trublu wrote:
I posted about Josh's struggles back in April. I won't go into much detail but some of issues stem from feeling isolated and somewhat bullied as he was basically the kid everyone hung s h i t on and it led to feeling very frustrated. It's no excuse for why he did


You might as well go into detail, what's to lose now?

I remember your earlier post, well done.


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 Post subject: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:21 am 
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If he's consistently turning up late to training/meetings and not engaged when he gets there you quickly lose respect.

If you're coached and cajoled by your peers and it continues to happen then any respect left twitters away even quicker.

Happens in any workplace, let's not feel sorry for him. Don't forget here that his missus is days from dropping his kid and he's off showing his cock to a an adolescent.

Kids clearly got issues

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
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He was never going to make it.
Didn't have AFL mindset.

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