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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:08 am 
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Mick stood up for his players and the club he is leading. I congratulate him for that and support him for that.
It's been a long time coming since some-one in-charge stood up for us!!


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:16 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Mick stood up for his players and the club he is leading. I congratulate him for that and support him for that.
It's been a long time coming since some-one in-charge stood up for us!!


+1

He just stated what every body in the football world was thinking and saw. The players busted there collectively arses and things did not go our way with injuries and umpires.
I am sure when the dust settles the focus will be on the things we could control that also contributed to the loss.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:16 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Mick stood up for his players and the club he is leading. I congratulate him for that and support him for that.
It's been a long time coming since some-one in-charge stood up for us!!


I appreciate the standing up for his players bit but the there are plenty of ways he could have done that without doing the petulant child routine. It was cringeworthy.

Some appear to like their coach showing poor sportsmanship. I don't. Like Bondiblue pointed out to me "times have changed". Maybe i have failed to keep up.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:17 am 
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woof wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Mick stood up for his players and the club he is leading. I congratulate him for that and support him for that.
It's been a long time coming since some-one in-charge stood up for us!!


+1

He just stated what every body in the football world was thinking and saw. The players busted there collectively arses and things did not go our way with injuries and umpires.I am sure when the dust settles the focus will be on the things we could control that also contributed to the loss.


Exactly.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:19 am 
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You should highlight the last bit because that is the most important bit.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:23 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Mick stood up for his players and the club he is leading. I congratulate him for that and support him for that.
It's been a long time coming since some-one in-charge stood up for us!!

Yep


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:29 am 
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..i think it's less about the players, and more about the club.. ..by coming out and addressing the umps, last few weeks etc etc.. ..he's making a big noise and forcing the club to back him up and follow thru.. ..how long has it been since we've gone to the afl for 'words'.. ..yes he can make some noise, but he gets listened to.. ..like earlier in the year with the rules commitee..

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:32 am 
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woof wrote:
You should highlight the last bit because that is the most important bit.


I agree. That is the most important bit. We need to focus on winning games. Not bad luck.

We also need to find out what is going on with the holding the ball rule . If we know what it is we can coach our players accordingly. Some clarification FFS !!!


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:39 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Mick stood up for his players and the club he is leading. I congratulate him for that and support him for that.
It's been a long time coming since some-one in-charge stood up for us!!


:clap: :clap: :clap:


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:46 am 
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I'm a malthouse fan.
He is what needed to happen.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:02 am 
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It should never be about 'bare minimum' standards (and I don't equate it with Malthouse), it has been that way for years. It should be about 'maximum standards', maximum that is within our power to deliver. For instance, if a player is an 'approximate' fit, he will be bettered.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:03 am 
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I think Mick is a deadset prick - behaviour at Peter McCallum breakfast early on in the year was ordinary BUT
thought he was right the other night - didnt blame umpires for losing but pointed out the terrible umpiring performance on friday night - how can a team who comprehensively won the centre takeaways and clearances around the ground and who were 2 points down at three quarter time get no free kicks in the last quarter and the other mob get 10 free kicks - how didnt murphy get a free kick - how was it that deliberate out of bounds was paid against us when theirs was allowed - how was that holding the ball on cachia earlier in the match - everyone at the ground thought hodge was holding the ball except for 3 people
Given we effectively got dudded the week before on a goal to garlett on the video technology and lack of common sense by the umpires I think given the last quarter umpiring something should have been said
I dont think the umpiring cost us the game - inefficiency in front of goal - lack of composure - skill errors and lapses in defensive structure did - having said that umpiring was deplorable - even David King not a great carlton fan suggested on the radio on saturday that the last quarter we were very hardly done by

The thing I do like about it is that Mick is showing the whole football world that carlton are going forward will have a harder edge and that we wont sit there and take it anymore we are ready to take people on and if that is the case we will take it up to the afl if necessary


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:19 pm 
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The whole Malthouse saga is becoming a train wreck.

One bad decision after another ... alienation of several important players at the club ... out coached on multiple occasions in critical matches ... terrible tactical decisions which continue to cost us games ... the list goes on and on and on.

Obviously a big fat fail in terms of where this team should be given less injuries and a stronger list than last year.

Lets hope that we don't have to use the 10 year plan that the Super Duper coach has employed at other clubs.

Lets hope for the best ... start planning for next year ... this year looks to be over.

We live in hope ... rather than trust.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:23 pm 
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BigBlueWave wrote:
The whole Malthouse saga is becoming a train wreck.

One bad decision after another ... alienation of several important players at the club ... out coached on multiple occasions in critical matches ... terrible tactical decisions which continue to cost us games ... the list goes on and on and on.

Obviously a big fat fail in terms of where this team should be given less injuries and a stronger list than last year.

Lets hope that we don't have to use the 10 year plan that the Super Duper coach has employed at other clubs.

Lets hope for the best ... start planning for next year ... this year looks to be over.

We live in hope ... rather than trust.



Who? Duigan and Laidler? Why are they 'important'?

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:25 pm 
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I dont know why ratten keeps posting here, thought he'd be over at hawk talk or whatever they call their shitty website

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:27 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
BigBlueWave wrote:
The whole Malthouse saga is becoming a train wreck.

One bad decision after another ... alienation of several important players at the club ... out coached on multiple occasions in critical matches ... terrible tactical decisions which continue to cost us games ... the list goes on and on and on.

Obviously a big fat fail in terms of where this team should be given less injuries and a stronger list than last year.

Lets hope that we don't have to use the 10 year plan that the Super Duper coach has employed at other clubs.

Lets hope for the best ... start planning for next year ... this year looks to be over.

We live in hope ... rather than trust.



Who? Duigan and Laidler? Why are they 'important'?


I'd have been surprised if their wasn't a few unhappy players.

Lets face it, they've done pretty much what they like (and not done what they should ) for a few years.

The exact same stories came out from Freo last year.

This list has its issues, everyone has known that, but its major flaw has been its resolve.

It appears to be addressing this.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:29 pm 
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club29 wrote:
You can trade contracted players. I am not talking about delisting Joseph and Davies. They were wrongly signed up but have no relevance to this discussion.


No Club wanted to go near Joseph and Davies last year, and I don't blame them.
We could barely get interest for Thornton and Russell, let alone those other two.
MM did the right thing by judging the list himself this year before he makes the right moves.

As stated by others, our biggest problem during the Ratts era was our resolve against the big guys.
This year under MM, we ve pressed all the big teams all the way. Compare our performance against Hawthorn from this year to last.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:42 pm 
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I said the other night that Friday night's performance was the best I've seen a Carlton side play this century.

I haven't changed my mind.

That's progress and Mick deserves a fair share of the credit.

Will we win a flag under him?

Who knows?

But on Friday night we appeared to be playing a type of football that's closer to the type needed in September than I've seen from a Carlton side in over a decade.

Still a long way to go but closer than we've been for ages.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:52 pm 
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Yeah, I'm liking the fact that we are gradually finding out who can play and who can't. Under Ratten we were all over the place and players were protected. The test will be to see if we can follow through with a healthy cull. :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:02 pm 
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BigBlueWave wrote:
The whole Malthouse saga is becoming a train wreck.

One bad decision after another ... alienation of several important players at the club ... out coached on multiple occasions in critical matches ... terrible tactical decisions which continue to cost us games ... the list goes on and on and on.

Obviously a big fat fail in terms of where this team should be given less injuries and a stronger list than last year.

Lets hope that we don't have to use the 10 year plan that the Super Duper coach has employed at other clubs.

Lets hope for the best ... start planning for next year ... this year looks to be over.

We live in hope ... rather than trust.

Who are the several important players?


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