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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:40 pm 
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Garry Crane

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Walls questioning his membership for next year due to how the club is being run is amusing assuming that he's been a member over the past 10-15 years.....

As for Wilson I was thinking that having the likes of Malthouse, Sayer and Fahour wanting to join the club could only be a good thing, but she wants to spin into a club in turmoil/factions beat up. Was boring the panel last night on Classified with it as well.

Remember its only September and the only people we are hearing from are Ratten, Barrett, Parkin, Walls, Wilson etc.

Players still have weeks before they set foot into the club.

A couple of quotes about how the are jumping out of their skins, some new faces arriving, and the return of Walkers hat and this will soon all be forgotten.


Surely Walls would be a life member; not sure how you can stop being one of those (until you cark it of course)


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:47 pm 
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Did any of the present board members have any involvement in salary cap cheating in the 90s/early 00s? If they did, should they be on the board at all?


There is one...

No prizes for guessing who.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:27 pm 
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Putting some perspective on this, things are coming along nicely compared to where we were about two months ago when the calls for Ratten to go and radical changes to the Board really got loud.

We now have a proven premiership coach who has already put conditions on the Board ("Arizona ......", sounds like a song), and the right sort of names are in the mix as new Directors. Give it a few more weeks yet.

Roll on AGM so the Members can have their say. Should be well attended this time.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:50 pm 
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I think many members feel the same as Walls.

If we have the money to pay out a bunch of coaches and pay a new coach $1m a year then maybe they don't need the money from memberships.

Have no doubt Wallsy will buy his membership and support the club. He's allowed to ask questions about whats happening though.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:56 pm 
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Mens sana wrote:
Roll on AGM so the Members can have their say. Should be well attended this time.


Have their say on what exactly? I don't think there should even be an allocated question time....and there can't be any member votes (ASIC regulations)...but just for show they should do an anonymous board vote...that'd be fun!

...It's time to go...


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:59 pm 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
I think many members feel the same as Walls.
If we have the money to pay out a bunch of coaches and pay a new coach $1m a year then maybe they don't need the money from memberships.


Wait....what!! - this is extraordinary thinking! Shouldn't the do-gooder, 'holier-than-thou', 'you don't really support Carlton', 'why don't you go barrack for Richmond', 'you should give it away' supporter be outraged by this! Where are they?!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:06 pm 
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His path has been bloced a couple of times prior.. and one of the reasons was Pratt....
We dont know the motive... but we do know the club is looking for a rudder right now.. and Fahour is seen as a rudder.

PS Mathieson isnt Jewish...


Sorry Synners- I can not let the "perception" that Jewish board members stepped in to block Fahour (a Muslim) from joining the board based on some anti- Muslim conspiracy linger.

It is fundamentally not true and you are doing a great disservice to the quality of this forum by implying that it happened.

For the sake of full disclosure and for those of you who:

(a) are not aware; and
(b) care,

I am Jewish.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:14 pm 
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thats fine you have your opinion .
And i dont disagree or agree with you.

One thing is for sure. Fahour has had the door slammed in his face by the board on more than one occassion.

One of the main reasons was Pratt.

So whether its true or not is a theory... and we both cant prove shit...!!!...

Doesnt mean it cant be thrown up there... because there was no real reason for a guy who was CEO of the NAB to be blocked .. and a bunch of other guys invited on....

So who knows???

Surely you cant say people cant think that might be a possibility???

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:23 pm 
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Perhaps Fahour was just practicing removing unsatisfactory performers...

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/mlc-principal-sacked-20120918-26450.html

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"The Board has not accused Ms Storelli of any dishonest conduct or fraudulent behaviour. However over the past six weeks the Board has discussed these matters with Ms Storelli in an attempt to resolve them. Disappointingly a resolution could not be reached. Ultimately the board lost confidence in Ms Storelli as principal and her position became untenable."

Ms Adler said the nine non-executive members of the MLC board, who include Australia Post CEO Ahmed Fahour, La Trobe University deputy vice-chancellor Belinda Probert and KPMG partner Bernard Salt, unanimously made the decision after "serious and very careful consideration".

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:34 pm 
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There is no doubt Fahour is a headkicker of weak and underperforming mediocre types.... but Pratt was hardly that....

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:03 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
There is no doubt Fahour is a headkicker of weak and underperforming mediocre types.... but Pratt was hardly that....
watch out Mr Netwon :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:06 pm 
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Ever felt like kicking yourself Synners?

Well, did you ever.....?? :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:11 pm 
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isdonis.george wrote:
Ever felt like kicking yourself Synners?

Well, did you ever.....?? :thumbsup:


more pears of wisedom from you issie...

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:40 pm 
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bluehammer wrote:
Perhaps Fahour was just practicing removing unsatisfactory performers...

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/mlc-principal-sacked-20120918-26450.html

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"The Board has not accused Ms Storelli of any dishonest conduct or fraudulent behaviour. However over the past six weeks the Board has discussed these matters with Ms Storelli in an attempt to resolve them. Disappointingly a resolution could not be reached. Ultimately the board lost confidence in Ms Storelli as principal and her position became untenable."

Ms Adler said the nine non-executive members of the MLC board, who include Australia Post CEO Ahmed Fahour, La Trobe University deputy vice-chancellor Belinda Probert and KPMG partner Bernard Salt, unanimously made the decision after "serious and very careful consideration".


He's a bloody Methodist???!!!!

No wonder he was blocked.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:49 pm 
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hats fine you have your opinion .
And i dont disagree or agree with you.

One thing is for sure. Fahour has had the door slammed in his face by the board on more than one occassion.

One of the main reasons was Pratt.

So whether its true or not is a theory... and we both cant prove shit...!!!...

Doesnt mean it cant be thrown up there... because there was no real reason for a guy who was CEO of the NAB to be blocked .. and a bunch of other guys invited on....

So who knows???

Surely you cant say people cant think that might be a possibility???


So is it your opinion that:
(a) it is "a possibility" that Jewish board members stepped in to block Fahour (a Muslim) from joining the board based on some anti- Muslim conspiracy; or
(b) you neither "agree or disgree with me" that Jewish board members did not step in to block Fahour (a Muslim) from joining the board based on some anti- Muslim conspiracy?

Your most recent post on this point is unclear.

If it is point (a) (which, for what is worth, is my opinion on what your opinion is) I can tell you that it is a factually incorrect "opinion" to hold.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:05 pm 
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because there was no real reason for a guy who was CEO of the NAB to be blocked

IIRC he left NAB after missing out on the CEO job.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:05 pm 
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Ahmed was blocked initially by the NAB chairman.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:13 pm 
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bluechucky wrote:
Ahmed was blocked initially by the NAB chairman.


Bingo!
That was the real reason and I heard it myself straight from the horses mouth.

Ahmed, would have otherwise put his hand up for a board position.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:15 pm 
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hats fine you have your opinion .
And i dont disagree or agree with you.

One thing is for sure. Fahour has had the door slammed in his face by the board on more than one occassion.

One of the main reasons was Pratt.

So whether its true or not is a theory... and we both cant prove shit...!!!...

Doesnt mean it cant be thrown up there... because there was no real reason for a guy who was CEO of the NAB to be blocked .. and a bunch of other guys invited on....

So who knows???

Surely you cant say people cant think that might be a possibility???



So is it your opinion that:
(a) it is "a possibility" that Jewish board members stepped in to block Fahour (a Muslim) from joining the board based on some anti- Muslim conspiracy; or
(b) you neither "agree or disgree with me" that Jewish board members did not step in to block Fahour (a Muslim) from joining the board based on some anti- Muslim conspiracy?

Your most recent post on this point is unclear.

If it is point (a) (which, for what is worth, is my opinion on what your opinion is) I can tell you that it is a factually incorrect "opinion" to hold.



Settle down Josh. You made your point and a valid one at that if what Caro wrote is correct and Ralph, Pratt's son in law Raphael has been pushing for Ahmed to join the board.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:20 pm 
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bluehammer wrote:
Perhaps Fahour was just practicing removing unsatisfactory performers...

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/mlc-principal-sacked-20120918-26450.html

Quote:
"The Board has not accused Ms Storelli of any dishonest conduct or fraudulent behaviour. However over the past six weeks the Board has discussed these matters with Ms Storelli in an attempt to resolve them. Disappointingly a resolution could not be reached. Ultimately the board lost confidence in Ms Storelli as principal and her position became untenable."

Ms Adler said the nine non-executive members of the MLC board, who include Australia Post CEO Ahmed Fahour, La Trobe University deputy vice-chancellor Belinda Probert and KPMG partner Bernard Salt, unanimously made the decision after "serious and very careful consideration".


The board are going to have to give up a little more on what Rosa has or hasn't done with this one. At the moment her reputation's in tatters despite not being accused of any dishonest conduct or fraudulent behaviour. I'm sure there are all sorts of legal issues responsible for the wording but it's not a good look for any of them at the moment.

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