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 Post subject: Changes UNDER Malthouse
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:04 pm 
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Unless Malthouse has some magic spell that can make players tougher and make is so they dont accept losing then nothing will change
These players curl over and take it from behind as soon as anyone applies any pressure
They are the softest bunch of players in the competition outside of the demons

That pathetic little display by walker against milne yesterday just somes up the whole team . Milne was taking the piss out of him

I think if he does come in there will be a few front running favourites that will be playing for northern and if Sticks and co think the list only needs a little tweaking to win a flag he is dreaming

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:14 pm 
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Mick's priority will surely be our backline. He has big problems to sort out there or we wont be competitive against the big boys next year.

It would be fair to say we only have one proven quality defender in Jamison (completely injury prone)
Promising players - Laidler, McInnes (injured) and Touhy
Developing players - Bootsma and McCarthy look a couple of years away
Servicable - Duigan and White
Question marks - Watson, Bower, Thornton, Joseph, Russell, Bower, Davies
Players forced to backline to plug holes or team balance- Yarran, Henderson, Gibbs all maybe better off in other positions?

I reckon we will chase a big quality natural defender in the trade period.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:27 pm 
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I reckon we will chase our arses in the trade period.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:34 pm 
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Pafloyul wrote:
I reckon we will chase our arses in the trade period.


'Malthouse' will have more pulling power this year, I'm confident we will land a couple of handy players. Laidler is a good example. Fingers crossed.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:29 am 
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Stefchook wrote:
On the basis of all the scuttlebut, I'm assuming MM is a done deal. So what changes do you expect to see under the new coach?

I reckon:

1 - bigger bodies, and especially bigger bums Worked really well at Essendon* this season
2 - a lot more sacrificial team acts, especially shepherds (can't remember when was the last time I saw a Carlton player shepherd) You obviously don't watch games too carefully. Armfield was the most recent. Last quarter when he shepherded Eddie into an open goal and Eddie decided to kick it from 30 and missed. Before that, Ellard got a free when interfered with while shepherding. That's just two from the 4th quarter of the most recent match.
3 - midfielders being more accountable soryy but that's amotherhood statement. Exactly what does it mean? That if they don't get enough clearances they get dropped? If they miss a target by hand or foot they get dropped? if they don't get their quota of goals per week they get dropped? Please explain./color]
4 - much better defensive set ups behind the ball - instead of one-on-ones and lots of space in our defensive 50, I expect to see some of our defenders sitting back behind the ball (and a loose man back)[color=#FF0000]We rarely play man on man so this should be easy to organize. Just moreof the same. I think we SHOULD play MORE man on man than we do. A loose man behind the ball is something we do occasionally..

5 - a couple of fringe players stepping up to become first 18 players (although to be fair that happens with ever new coach) I agree. This could have been left out.


We know what Malthouse does so here are a few things I think we will see if we get him:
Less emphasis on tagging.
Less use of the centre corridor, although it has been one of our strengths on those occasions we have run through it.
Low risk use of the footy. Malthouse is a fan of the "one of the best ways to get a score is from a turnover" theory.
One ruck on the field at a time.
More set plays when the footy is in motion, in other words, players running to set positions when we have the footy so players WITH the footy know if they get into trouble, player 'x' will be in position 'y'. It is a trait of the good teams that they handball into what used to be a space only to find one of their players has filled it. It is not an accident.

(Edited because since my daughter spilled glue down the space bar, it has never been the same.)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:16 am 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:26 am 
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Malthouse is going to have to reinvent himself he has only ever coached sides that play on big open grounds
Bulldogs - western Oval - Eagles Subi and Pies - MCG

He will have to re think his make up and devise something different for a team whose games are split between the G and the Dome

Has he got it in him

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:32 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:


That pathetic little display by walker against milne yesterday just somes up the whole team . Milne was taking the piss out of him



I thought that was one matchup we actually one. Walker was damaging with ball in hand, and Milne was pretty ordinary.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:45 am 
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I think our defence is an issue, however I still think that our strength is in our run and carry and spread. He cannot take that aspect out of our game.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:33 am 
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a feature of all Malthouse teams is that when a player was in trouble there was another player there to support ... it all gets down to the team thing with Malthouse.

Also, I would like him to bring over his recruiting team from the pies.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:37 am 
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cecil89 wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:


That pathetic little display by walker against milne yesterday just somes up the whole team . Milne was taking the piss out of him



I thought that was one matchup we actually one. Walker was damaging with ball in hand, and Milne was pretty ordinary.

Agreed, Walker killed him. Sadly the little turd got to have the last laugh, and carrying on as if he'd won the game on his own was totally undeserved.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:08 pm 
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Generally speaking he prefers to play 3 talls and 3 smalls forward.
One of those talls is the relieving ruckman, usually a forward who can pinch-hit. He likes blooding young mids off half-forward.

Down back he only plays 2 talls and an array of medium-sized players who play tall or get / give a chop out. He likes at least 2 runners off half-back.

He prefers a single ruckman, and doesn't really play tags.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:33 pm 
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Blue Tongue wrote:
Pafloyul wrote:
I reckon we will chase our arses in the trade period.


'Malthouse' will have more pulling power this year, I'm confident we will land a couple of handy players. Laidler is a good example. Fingers crossed.


That's an interesting thought. I wonder if there's any decent Pies available who liked things better when Malthouse was in charge?
I know he's not playing well at the moment, but Dawes has played some good football, (under Malthouse).


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 Post subject: Changes UNDER Malthouse
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:55 pm 
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bluechampion wrote:
He prefers a single ruckman, and doesn't really play tags.


Goodbye AJ and Curnow then.

Army will be the interesting call, needs to spend time in the midfield rotation I feel to be a regular, his field kicking skills would need to improve.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:59 pm 
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Noone plays tags thesedays much except Ratts....

Anyway.. im expecting players to blossom.

Tags dont allow development.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:02 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Noone plays tags thesedays much except Ratts....

Anyway.. im expecting players to blossom.

Tags dont allow development.


ahem......Woosha and Ross say HI!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:04 pm 
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Yes but they dont play with a half a dozen......

and besides theyre in another country.....

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:08 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Yes but they dont play with a half a dozen......

and besides theyre in another country.....


:lol:

Now don't exaggerate and I won't.

We didn't go anywhere near 6. Usually one outright tagger and one (Carrots) just more disciplined.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:11 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Yes but they dont play with a half a dozen......

and besides theyre in another country.....


:lol:

Now don't exaggerate and I won't.

We didn't go anywhere near 6. Usually one outright tagger and one (Carrots) just more disciplined.


Synbad exaggerate.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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