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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:24 pm 
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You have to be joking right? I'm not sure if you think AFL footballers are super human, but Yarran has missed a ton of footy. Any sportsmen knows that there is no substitute for match fitness. If Yarran starts the game on the ground and plays at least 3 quarters, you would be on here saying how he has gone backwards this year and looks slow.
He isn't fit! There was no bullants game! We need him to get fit!
Yes we could've let him play an average 3 quarters to get extra run in his legs, but then we jeopardize the team so that Chris Yarran gets fitter faster. RIDICULOUS!

Again, i have my issues with Ratts and the MC, but common sense needs to prevail on this site at least some of the time!!!!.......right..??


Firstly don't assume anything Professor.
If you run your players up and down the ground they won't last.
That also reflects on their goal shooting, but that's a seperate issue.
If you use them to the best of their ability and to your strenghts and fixed structures then they can be very dangerous no matter what their fitness base.
Many players play every week injured or coming of injury that aren't 100 percent.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:16 am 
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The Professor wrote:
Blue Sombrero - obviously i wasn't clear as i assume you are confusing point 3.
Play a quarter and a bit refers to Yarran coming on and doing that, not the team doing that and then bringing Yarran on....

Again, in normal circumstances, where the list is fully fit, Yarran would never be the sub. EVER! But when the bullants have a bye, and he is not 100% fit, it makes sense....

am I the only one that sees this?

You are right. I thought that's what you meant. Sorry. I should have realized that someone who calls himself 'the professor' would have a better grip. My mistake.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:56 am 
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Finally you're speaking my language Blue Sombrero!!!! :razz:

As for you redback, i have no idea what you are getting at or what you are addressing.... so i'm not really sure where how to respond.

If you think that a half fit Yarran is the best thing for the team then we simply disagree on the fundamentals of a team sport.

To me, you want all your players giving 100% for as much of the game as possible. Chris Yarran cannot do that at that for an extended amount of time at the moment. So again, for the teams sake, we had to start him as the sub.

Most likely wont be the sub this week. But if he is it's because he's not fully fit yet. Remember how long it took Sandilands to get over his toe injury....came back then missed a few then came back and was never really 100%. We are nursing Yarran through this.

Again, my point is/was lets not just shoot the MC and Ratten for every little thing because it suits us at the moment. Yes we are in trouble, and yes a lot is not going right, but we have to be rational some of the time......


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:20 am 
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Walker FF

Henderson CHF

Resting ruckmen to alternate playing FP

More traditional forward set up.

Would like to see Tuohy, Armfield and Gibbs rotated more through the forward flanks at times.

Definitely like to see Tuohy play forward a bit more often. Has natural goal sense.

Armfield has stepped up and is becoming a player that other sides worry about.

I follow the debate about Gibbs with interest. Suspect he is really a forward but we may not find out for another season or so.

Walker's best games in his renaissance last year were as a deep forward. Think he should start out of the goal square and be the full forward for majority of game time for the next few weeks at least.

Henderson has become a better footballer through learning backline play. We needed him there and he rose to the challenge. He now looks more like an emerging centre half forward to me. Suited better up the ground a bit - i.e. not out of the goal square.

Quite a few injury questions this week. Wondering about the fitness of Warnock, Kreuzer and Yarran. Is Carrazzo really ready to go?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:29 am 
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The Professor wrote:
Finally you're speaking my language Blue Sombrero!!!! :razz:

As for you redback, i have no idea what you are getting at or what you are addressing.... so i'm not really sure where how to respond.

If you think that a half fit Yarran is the best thing for the team then we simply disagree on the fundamentals of a team sport.

To me, you want all your players giving 100% for as much of the game as possible. Chris Yarran cannot do that at that for an extended amount of time at the moment. So again, for the teams sake, we had to start him as the sub.

Most likely wont be the sub this week. But if he is it's because he's not fully fit yet. Remember how long it took Sandilands to get over his toe injury....came back then missed a few then came back and was never really 100%. We are nursing Yarran through this.

Again, my point is/was lets not just shoot the MC and Ratten for every little thing because it suits us at the moment. Yes we are in trouble, and yes a lot is not going right, but we have to be rational some of the time......


I'll try and explain what I mean Professor.
You can utilize a player like Yarran with his skill and current rate of fitness in a couple of ways.
You can use him as spare man in defence where he can go by himself and prolong his endurance base and can break the lines.
You can leave him deep in the forward line and release Garlett or Betts further up.
You can plonk him in the center and use him as a link between HF and HB.
These are a few ways to utilize a player like Yarran and there are a couple of other ways but that would also depend on certain variable situations on game day.
If he's injured don't play him.
If he's got a extremly low fitness base don't play him.
If someone had gotten injured early on what would the MC had done?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:35 am 
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Training Times

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This morning's open training session has been moved back to Visy Park. It will commence at 10am. We apologise for any inconvenience caused.



Entered via the open Pratt Stand gates. Sat down, watched a couple of minutes. Got kicked out.

"Sorry, it's actually a closed training session, didn't realise we left the gates open."

Felt for the bloke who'd bought 4 kids along & was shown the door too. I do like the irony though of the club thinking other teams would want to learn anything from us right now. :lol:

What I can say is Scotland Laidler Carrazzo all trained. Didn't get a good look at the latter 2 but Scotland moved at a good pace & kicked well.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:40 am 
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CK95 wrote:
CFC wrote:
Training Times

Open Training sessions:


This morning's open training session has been moved back to Visy Park. It will commence at 10am. We apologise for any inconvenience caused.



Entered via the open Pratt Stand gates. Sat down, watched a couple of minutes. Got kicked out.

"Sorry, it's actually a closed training session, didn't realise we left the gates open."

Felt for the bloke who'd bought 4 kids along & was shown the door too. I do like the irony though of the club thinking other teams would want to learn anything from us right now. :lol: What I can say is Scotland Laidler Carrazzo all trained. Didn't get a good look at the latter 2 but Scotland moved at a good pace & kicked well.



:lol: :lol:

It appears that the club would have difficulties running a bath :donk:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:44 am 
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Thanks CK.

Scotland? Calf magically got better? Can still train with such a injury? Rumours that he isn't actually injured true?.... :confused:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:46 am 
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Blueboy74 wrote:
Thanks CK.

Scotland? Calf magically got better? Can still train with such a injury? Rumours that he isn't actually injured true?.... :confused:


Who know's.

He's got some things going on in his life, if the club gave him a week or so off to clear his head, that's perfectly reasonable.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:52 am 
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CK95 wrote:
CFC wrote:
Training Times

Open Training sessions:


This morning's open training session has been moved back to Visy Park. It will commence at 10am. We apologise for any inconvenience caused.



Entered via the open Pratt Stand gates. Sat down, watched a couple of minutes. Got kicked out.

"Sorry, it's actually a closed training session, didn't realise we left the gates open."

Felt for the bloke who'd bought 4 kids along & was shown the door too. I do like the irony though of the club thinking other teams would want to learn anything from us right now. :lol:


Amateur hour.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:55 am 
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"Scotland? Calf magically got better? Can still train with such a injury? Rumours that he isn't actually injured true?.... :confused:"quote from above post

Shhh!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:03 pm 
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it's all a bit silly isn't it :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:42 pm 
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gunna win.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:52 pm 
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agreed

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:32 pm 
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Like to see us really structure our side a bit better and back ourselves in.

B: Yarran Jamison Duigan
HB: Bootsma Watson Lucas

C: Simpson Robinson Touhy
Foll: Warnock Carrazzo Ellard

HF: Gibbs Henderson Judd
F: Kruezer Walker Betts

Int: Armfield Collins McLean (Garlett)

Let Judd start forward and work into mid when needed.
Touhy up to wing and dropping back to help defence. Ala Scotland role.
Gibbs as a target as well as defensive forward on Hurn. Needs to work both ways and create opportunities.
2 ruck man only
Run from defence
Midfield need to work together and its about "numbers" at the contest.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:35 pm 
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Waters is suspended

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:39 pm 
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Hope 206 is fit enough to play - we are a much better team when he is up and about - having him off the ground in the last qtr against the Catsd didn't help

If Carrots is available then a big bonus - even if it means that WC will have less opportunity to work Simmo and Judd over

Can win this - but have to take our chances in front of goal

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:52 pm 
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Waters is suspended


So they have more A graders out than us, surely not?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:54 pm 
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In: Scotland Carrazzo Thornton

Out: Joesph Bootsma Hampson


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:59 pm 
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My team:

Yarran Jamison Watson
Gibbs Duigan Touhy
Simpson Mclean Scotland
Walker Henderson Garlett
Betts Kreuzer Thornton
Warnock Judd Ellard
Carrazzo Robinson Armfield
Collins (Sub)

Team starting to look better.


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