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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 9:39 pm 
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Have we talked about our drafting enough yet? Because we should. That list of older players is a real concern. We have failed to continue to bring in sufficient numbers to cater for this area. I'm sure we're the envy of every club in regards to hb flankers though!

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:01 pm 
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Have we talked about our drafting enough yet? Because we should. That list of older players is a real concern. We have failed to continue to bring in sufficient numbers to cater for this area. I'm sure we're the envy of every club in regards to hb flankers though!



We are following the Geelong model - except we think we are Geelong circa 2007/8 - except we are currently more like Geelong circa 2002/2003. :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 7:07 am 
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Gibbs looked like a very average footballer last week.
Couldnt win a contest to save himself, flogged at the stoppages and refused to show the accountability required.
Fortunately, we know he has the ability to improve significantly. The powers that be need to get inside his head pronto to fix whatever is holding him back.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:20 am 
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..injuries to prime movers will cloud 'coaching' assessments this season, and a fresh contract ext. won't see any coaching changes in the immediate future.. ..like it or lump it, we know this is what will happen..

..in regards to Gibbs, canna remember which poster thought he had 'corey enright' potential, but that opinion is 'optimistic'.. ..enright could easily slot into the majority of team's midfields with ease, and is far more 'hodge' like across hb than Gibbs will ever be.. ..enright is more like scotland.. ..similar styles and 'attitude'..

..Gibbs natural position is at HF.. ..we have options to play his role across hb, a few better than him.. ..we have zero across HF.. ..but instead we play a creative hf down back, and a chf down back too...and scratch our head when we continually break down [over diff seasons now too] across hf..

..buncha brainiacs..

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:33 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Gibbs looked like a very average footballer last week.
Couldnt win a contest to save himself, flogged at the stoppages and refused to show the accountability required.
Fortunately, we know he has the ability to improve significantly. The powers that be need to get inside his head pronto to fix whatever is holding him back.



might have to move to adelaide to do that :?

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:27 pm 
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The two clowns running the Footy Show also run clubs that are on the skids. Lyon is de facto Pres at Melbourne.

The rare times I see bits of the Footy Show Gibbs is there.

Any connection there? TFS mindset?

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:35 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Gibbs looked like a very average footballer last week.
Couldnt win a contest to save himself, flogged at the stoppages and refused to show the accountability required.
Fortunately, we know he has the ability to improve significantly. The powers that be need to get inside his head pronto to fix whatever is holding him back.



might have to move to adelaide to do that :?

Now that is just pie-in-the-sky speculation... don't get people pushing the panic button for nothing.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:47 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Gibbs looked like a very average footballer last week.
Couldnt win a contest to save himself, flogged at the stoppages and refused to show the accountability required.
Fortunately, we know he has the ability to improve significantly. The powers that be need to get inside his head pronto to fix whatever is holding him back.



might have to move to adelaide to do that :?

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:54 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Gibbs looked like a very average footballer last week.
Couldnt win a contest to save himself, flogged at the stoppages and refused to show the accountability required.
Fortunately, we know he has the ability to improve significantly. The powers that be need to get inside his head pronto to fix whatever is holding him back.



might have to move to adelaide to do that :?

Now that is just pie-in-the-sky speculation... don't get people pushing the panic button for nothing.

Syd probably got that from 2GB as well


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:51 pm 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..injuries to prime movers will cloud 'coaching' assessments this season, and a fresh contract ext. won't see any coaching changes in the immediate future.. ..like it or lump it, we know this is what will happen..

..in regards to Gibbs, canna remember which poster thought he had 'corey enright' potential, but that opinion is 'optimistic'.. ..enright could easily slot into the majority of team's midfields with ease, and is far more 'hodge' like across hb than Gibbs will ever be.. ..enright is more like scotland.. ..similar styles and 'attitude'..

..Gibbs natural position is at HF.. ..we have options to play his role across hb, a few better than him.. ..we have zero across HF.. ..but instead we play a creative hf down back, and a chf down back too...and scratch our head when we continually break down [over diff seasons now too] across hf..

..buncha brainiacs..


That was me with the Enright call. I stand by it. Far more that that than a Nathan Buckley / Dangerfield type.

Gibbs has shown very little to say he is a natural HF. Can play HF but a natural? I dont think so. I doubt he would do anything to help our structure playing at hf currently. The problem is we are not winning the ball at the stoppages and that is something we all agree on and the stats show.
Most also agree that we have to match the congestion tactics of the other team but playing them one on one.

Gibbs can slot in around the back of that cluster of players and play a role we all know he is a natural at. Reading the play. Beating his man and orchastrating attacks. Enright style !
We have not better options than him at this role. That is why we look so much better when he is playing behind the ball. Check out each game this year again.....quarter by quarter and tell me what you see. Note down position he is playing, how is playing and how much we won/lost the quarter by.


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:28 pm 
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We should be moving heaven and earth to trade Gibbs for Dangerfield before he re-signs with the Crows!!!

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isdonis.george wrote:
The two clowns running the Footy Show also run clubs that are on the skids. Lyon is de facto Pres at Melbourne.

The rare times I see bits of the Footy Show Gibbs is there.

Any connection there? TFS mindset?

Yeah that would be it

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 7:07 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..injuries to prime movers will cloud 'coaching' assessments this season, and a fresh contract ext. won't see any coaching changes in the immediate future.. ..like it or lump it, we know this is what will happen..

..in regards to Gibbs, canna remember which poster thought he had 'corey enright' potential, but that opinion is 'optimistic'.. ..enright could easily slot into the majority of team's midfields with ease, and is far more 'hodge' like across hb than Gibbs will ever be.. ..enright is more like scotland.. ..similar styles and 'attitude'..

..Gibbs natural position is at HF.. ..we have options to play his role across hb, a few better than him.. ..we have zero across HF.. ..but instead we play a creative hf down back, and a chf down back too...and scratch our head when we continually break down [over diff seasons now too] across hf..

..buncha brainiacs..


That was me with the Enright call. I stand by it. Far more that that than a Nathan Buckley / Dangerfield type.

Gibbs has shown very little to say he is a natural HF. Can play HF but a natural? I dont think so. I doubt he would do anything to help our structure playing at hf currently. The problem is we are not winning the ball at the stoppages and that is something we all agree on and the stats show.
Most also agree that we have to match the congestion tactics of the other team but playing them one on one.

Gibbs can slot in around the back of that cluster of players and play a role we all know he is a natural at. Reading the play. Beating his man and orchastrating attacks. Enright style !
We have not better options than him at this role. That is why we look so much better when he is playing behind the ball. Check out each game this year again.....quarter by quarter and tell me what you see. Note down position he is playing, how is playing and how much we won/lost the quarter by.



Wayne Johnston wouldnt look like a hff if he wasnt played there and was a tagger

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:30 pm 
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He had a bad season or two also.


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 10:53 pm 
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Gibbs is one of many in the team who hasnt settled into a position
Hendo Thornton Kruezer Russell Hammer Yarran Bower
All have been chopped and changed around the place

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:28 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..injuries to prime movers will cloud 'coaching' assessments this season, and a fresh contract ext. won't see any coaching changes in the immediate future.. ..like it or lump it, we know this is what will happen..

..in regards to Gibbs, canna remember which poster thought he had 'corey enright' potential, but that opinion is 'optimistic'.. ..enright could easily slot into the majority of team's midfields with ease, and is far more 'hodge' like across hb than Gibbs will ever be.. ..enright is more like scotland.. ..similar styles and 'attitude'..

..Gibbs natural position is at HF.. ..we have options to play his role across hb, a few better than him.. ..we have zero across HF.. ..but instead we play a creative hf down back, and a chf down back too...and scratch our head when we continually break down [over diff seasons now too] across hf..

..buncha brainiacs..


That was me with the Enright call. I stand by it. Far more that that than a Nathan Buckley / Dangerfield type.

Gibbs has shown very little to say he is a natural HF. Can play HF but a natural? I dont think so. I doubt he would do anything to help our structure playing at hf currently. The problem is we are not winning the ball at the stoppages and that is something we all agree on and the stats show.
Most also agree that we have to match the congestion tactics of the other team but playing them one on one.

Gibbs can slot in around the back of that cluster of players and play a role we all know he is a natural at. Reading the play. Beating his man and orchastrating attacks. Enright style !
We have not better options than him at this role. That is why we look so much better when he is playing behind the ball. Check out each game this year again.....quarter by quarter and tell me what you see. Note down position he is playing, how is playing and how much we won/lost the quarter by.



..i agree that i wouldn't name his style as a buckley/dangerfield type to use your examples.. ..Gibbs pre-draft repeatedly showed his skills at HF, it was the main reason why we went at #1.. ..he did this as a bottom-aged skinny kid playing seniors for glenelg, a high standard comp. of seasoned hard footballers..

..for the same reasons you like him at HB [marking and kicking skills, reading of the play] is what made him so creative at HF pre-draft, and also during games at carlton [see late stages of last season for most recent examples]..

..yes stoppages are currently our biggest problem, but Gibbs as either a defender, or loose/kick behind play,, dont help our stoppages problems at all..

..scotland plays enright style, gibbs does not.. ..what you want gibbs to do, he can do off a wing, with a defensive sweeper role.. ..i'd rather him up at HF personally.. ..but enright he is not.. ..enright/scotland will back into packs time and again, gibbs rarely.. ..ppl on here question his hardness repeatedly, and you think him like enright?..

..scotland is far more courageous, will run/break the lines, has excellent kicking skills short and long off both feet.. ..he's a better option than gibbs across hb.. ..gibbs has played the majority of his games for us in the D50, he as of yet does not dominate that position, sure he plays well there some of the time.. ..but a player of his skill should play well almost anywhere on field.. ..but he could do a lot better than playing well.. ..at the blues he's spent by far enough time to put his hand up as a topline defender of the comp, and hasnt.. ..surprise surprise, its cos he aint a defender..

..edit -- using geelong as an example team, Gibbs plays less like enright and more like macky..

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 5:48 pm 
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BigKahuna even though I cannot disagree about your argument that Gibbs should be playing further up field I cannot agree about the Enright comparison.
I have been critical with Gibb's resolve in contested possessions in the past but he has more than backed back into situations this year.
Scotland was made aware by his team mates to his under commitment to body contact less than three years ago (by his own admission) and has since changed his commitment to the harder contest.
Enright is on the other hand very soft. When he hears footsteps he will fumble and duck his head. Everyone in the media has pointed out Hunt as soft in Cats colours but if you look closely at Enright for some games i'm sure your outlook will clear significantly.


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 10:55 pm 
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Doesn't bode all that well for Gibbs chances of ever being developed as a midfielder if they're not going to give him a go there this week (with Carrots and Murphy out, and against weak opposition).


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:06 pm 
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BigKahuna even though I cannot disagree about your argument that Gibbs should be playing further up field I cannot agree about the Enright comparison.
I have been critical with Gibb's resolve in contested possessions in the past but he has more than backed back into situations this year.
Scotland was made aware by his team mates to his under commitment to body contact less than three years ago (by his own admission) and has since changed his commitment to the harder contest.
Enright is on the other hand very soft. When he hears footsteps he will fumble and duck his head. Everyone in the media has pointed out Hunt as soft in Cats colours but if you look closely at Enright for some games i'm sure your outlook will clear significantly.



..ok, am hearin' what yer sayin' but not understandin' as much.. ..you agree with me about gibbs at HF, but not about gibbs - enright comparison.. ..but in which way, since yer sayin' Gibbs has toughened his resolve and enright is 'soft'.. ..others on here however are saying gibbs plays like enright.. ..mind you, i'm not one saying gibbs is soft neccessarily, but he's not one known for continually backing into packs.. ..sure he does do it when he has to [majority of players do], but he's not known for it as some great trait of his game.. ..sure perhaps my view on enright is wrong, but if so and others think gibbs and enright play a similar style, i still think it backs up my view..

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:30 am 
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My fault bringing Enright into this.

My point is that Enright is an all australian half backer and noone goes about tarnishing his name by saying he is "only a half backer".
He is well respected. Maybe not like Nathen Buckley but still a top notch players and important part of the team.

If we can get that out of Gibbs and he plays 200+ games that is a good score even for a number one pick. Sure its not the Nathen Buckley some hoped for when they saw him free wheeling as a 16 year old in the SANFL but lets face it that is not going to happen with his body shape and lack of explosive power.


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