so curnows and jamisons injury were invisible injuries?

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Are we referring to Jam's stress reaction or another injury?

all injurie!
some super obvious!
where we made players stay on the field hurt.
obviously hurt!
workplace laws will be looking into these kinds of situations in future.
if they don't they shouldn't be going around checking on small businesses and asking for ridiculous things.

there is also a moral obligation by club to players.

some of the incidents involving our club were particularly glaring.

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Synbad should write for News Ltd.

Club had no case to answer after Whitehead was sent back on the ground.

You're joking right? The legal matter ran for 7 years! The club doctor at the time was negligent, and the club is EXTREMELY lucky it happened when it did and not today. Adrian Whitehead was on a base salary of just $35,000 plus a match payments of $1500 when wrongly treated. Can you imagine his earning potential today? $200k +.

As it turned out - it was a significant six-figure settlement. Today, based on same scenario occurring and increased lost earnings - that figure would be in the millions. No question.

Jamo's injury is not too bad....

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oops for you again !

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Last years finals series;

I reckon the following players played injured Buddy, Jolly, Ben Reid, Paul Chapman, Steve Johnson, Jamo, Daniel Kerr, Dean Cox, Michael Hurley.

any of those looked as obvious as curnow and Jameson?
our boys were forced to play lame and they were home and away games.
Waite was brought back not right also.

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Kouta/Dane: Everything the club does is right, above-board and professional
Doc/Synbad: Everything the club does is incompetent, dodgy and unprofessional

Wash, rinse, repeat...

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Buddy looked pretty obvious to me, so did Stevie J. Those two plus all the others would have been jabbed to play.
You think the authorities will let them go because they were put on the ground unfit during finals.
That is one of your points isn't it that blokes are going out to play when they are not fit to do so, but you reckon the authorities will have a different rule when it is a home and away game compared to a final.
You are bannanas.
Should I mention Chris Judd in his last year at the Eagles, he was moving like a crab.

Somewhere in between would make for the logical conclusion.

No doubt the CFC had players on the park last year when they should not have been there.
That seemed to permeate through to the Bullants where Austin was still on the ground with a broken arm.
Could well be argued that Judd should also have not been on the ground after he hurt his foot against Geelong.

Those incidents were highlighted last year and I doubt we'll see more of the same this year.
Well, at least I hope not.

Yeah the Austin incident sticks in my mind. The guy should not have played a whole half of footy with a broken arm. Was visibly in pain and couldn't hold the ball with two hands (still marked and kicked a goal though).

Bullshit. I often give credit where it's due. And have I ever accused the club of being dodgy? A lot of what they do is great..and a lot of what they do is not. What Synbad and I agree on and are trying to outline is that they need to lift their performance in a number of key areas to attain success. If you're 90% in something and only 20% in another then isn't criticism warranted? we understand there are significant changes happening throughout the season which they need to adapt to, but they're often very slow in reacting to them, when a proactive approach is required.

Player welfare and a balanced approach to reporting an injury is an area that I'm sure Andrew McKay is aware of and will get right. I've already seen signs of this with MJ's injury.

I think our biggest concern is the 80's attitude that is creeping in. We loved the declaration from Sticks, Swann and Ratts about getting the Carlton arrogance back, but some off-field matters require a 2012 approach. Unfortunately, the decision makers want to take baby steps in the areas they should be making giant strides.

True, perhaps I was a tad harsh

For what it's worth, I agree with a lot of what you're saying, and have been particularly critical of how we've handled our injuries and managed our players the past couple of years. Some of the situations that occured last year were downright laughable and until we improve in this area we're not going to hit the top like we hope/expect to.

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we left lame players on the field.

whey we win a flag ill be happy.
before that things need to improve to win a flag.
just because it's not the dark old days of living in the cave eating roots and then progressing to hunting for food doesn't mean we now don't need to learn to build a fire to cook our meat.

the club is still way off being professional on so many levels I am astounded on why people think we will win a flag whilst the current status continues.

its not a matter of doing some things right.
you have to do more things right than everyone else.

I can't see how we are.
sure we were last for a few years and had an unprecedented amount of number one picks over four years.
sure being poor delivered us Judd and made us competitive.
now that guarantees diddly squat.
it just gives us a leg up.

but for the rest I can't see the plan to take up to the next level except for the logic we will be improving in small increments.

rubbish!

everyone is looking to better themselves also.
Judd is turning twenty nine this year.

I hear the board is expecting a flag in the next two years. coincidentl y while Judd is at his peak!

doesn't sound like a plan to me.

plans have structures on many levels.

we have slipped to a mediocre club.

where is our cutting edge stuff?

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I reckon most clubs were guilty of putting injured players back on the park last year more than most other years and it was because of the substitute rule. Where in previous years you would sit the guy out for a 1/4 or so to see if he pulled through last year there was a desire to get them back on quickly to see if you would have to call on the substitute so you were not down on rotations

not saying it is right just an observation

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This ...... except for Carlton of course.

provide examples of clubs doing that multiple times to lame players.

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Chris Judd was lame in his last year at the Eagles.
Brisbane Lions 2004 premiership team had 13 players that were injected so they could play the game. Nigel Lappin played with broken ribs.
Nick Revolting played lame most of last year.
Franklin was lame particularly in that first final.
Steve Johnson was lame in the grand final.
Matthew Egan tried to get up for a grand final which ended his career.
Michael Hurley played with a stress fracture for the last part of the year.
Paul Chapman played lame all season last year, he says he was carried for the whole season.
Cooney played lame last year.