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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:09 pm 
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Craig Bradley
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A stretch of seven wins in a row will be bliss.


How about we take it one week at a time......

We have improved, but we are only 1 game ahead of Richmond. If we play like we did on Friday night every week, we'll be top 4. But we're only an injury or two (and/or a drop off in attitude) away from coming right back to the pack...

We should beat the Demons, but I'm looking no further than that game at the moment.

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:34 pm 
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One more con:- I backed the Blues @ $3.20!

After the way we played, I doubt we will see us drift out to those odds again for a while (that could also be looked at as a pro!)

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:00 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
verbs wrote:
A stretch of seven wins in a row will be bliss.


How about we take it one week at a time......

We have improved, but we are only 1 game ahead of Richmond. If we play like we did on Friday night every week, we'll be top 4. But we're only an injury or two (and/or a drop off in attitude) away from coming right back to the pack...

We should beat the Demons, but I'm looking no further than that game at the moment.


Very wise


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:06 pm 
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Pros:

Fantastic crowd support.
Strong effort again.
Waite.
Jamo, Duigan and Laidler.
Simmo and Murphy.

Cons:

3 goals to both Chapman and Johnson playing in midfield. That's going to kill you against Geelong.
The venue. Pretty sure we would have won on the wider expanses of the MCG.
I reckon our defensive system has made a big difference, but thought we got beaten in too many defensive one-on-ones.
Brock. Needs to be given a decent run, and was always going to be tough coming up against Geelong's midfield, and on a fast deck. But just didn't have enough involvement or impact. Needs to have a very significant impact in tight, given that he can't run or spread.
A little disappointed we've tried to convert Army into a forward midfielder. I reckon he's gone a little backwards this year. (Joseph is the other one to struggle with a new role.)
Santy competing for marks with one arm in the air. He's been good, but would like to see more attempts at marking the ball. Also needs to give Warnock more help. He's been looking pretty knackered for a while.


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:13 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
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What did Betts do all game?
What did Gibbs do all game?
Why couldn't Yarran get into the game? Why didn't Ratts mix it up a bit with Yarran?
Why couldn't they wait another week to bring Brock in?
Mitch bleeds for the club. He needs max game time

Betts was average; Gibbs was great; Yarran was swung around when it was apparent he was quiet, then swung back; Curnow forced their hand; Mitch needed the half off after the last few games.

Between the two of you, you're on about one from six. Take a deep breath and run through the game again if you need to. Blue Beatle can take two deep breaths.


have taken more than two and realised i was out - of - line!!
but you know the more i think about it the more i realise that it was not my fault that i was so angry after the game - it was blue sombrero's for going back to mexico and not being here to calm me down.

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:24 pm 
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Stamos wrote:
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Letting our shots get touched on the line


I agree. There must have 3 or 4 where this happened. Maybe this is what happens when you play a smaller forward line. But we need to do some work on goal line shepherding. What made it even more galling was that we conceded at least 2 goals down the other end that should have been touched/spoiled.


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:28 pm 
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aerodyte wrote:
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Stadium shaking carlton chant in a big game against strong opposition.
I was a kid the last time I experienced that.


The noise on the tv and radio was pretty spine-tingling as well. :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:44 pm 
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Pros:

Scotland's game.
Essendon* lost.
Our pressure. Interestingly on Saturday morning, James Kelly from Geelong rated Collingwood as the team with the best structure at the moment, and Carlton as the team with the best pressure. :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:01 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
Santy competing for marks with one arm in the air. He's been good, but would like to see more attempts at marking the ball.

This annoyed me too, what was he doing?

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:27 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
Stamos wrote:
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Letting our shots get touched on the line


I agree. There must have 3 or 4 where this happened. Maybe this is what happens when you play a smaller forward line. But we need to do some work on goal line shepherding. What made it even more galling was that we conceded at least 2 goals down the other end that should have been touched/spoiled.


The Hawkins one involved Setanta and Thornton.

As I have said previously Setanta may be 2m tall but he doesn't play like it. You should be able to kill the ball in that situation, especially with the ruckman/tall defender on the line.

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:11 pm 
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Warnock is an excellent ruckman.But he is a tandem type of ruckman who badly needs Hammer back in the side to assist him...............thats not a knock on Warnock,he just operates better in pairs.Hammer has been woefull in the magoos,but i would recall him all the same for Warnock's sake.

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:20 pm 
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Carlton has won five games this year. Take out the Gold Coast one. The margins add up to 1 goal 39 behinds.

Help needed with goal kicking perhaps?


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:25 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
moshe25 wrote:
Name names...
Watch the replay and they stand out. No use looking like Tarzan if you want to play like Jane when it doesn't suit. No Passengers and no Selective efforts. Run Hard, Run Straight and get the ball first whenever you can. It's a simple rule of the game. This club will never go all the way forward with players who decide to 'wait and see'. The attack has to be fearless and uncompromising at every contest and for every gut run to get back and support.


I don't remember all the examples you're referring to but I remember Chris Yarran's. Even though he was closest to the ball he didn't go cause it was Chapman coming the other way, so he just stood there and let Chappie have the possesion. Chappie wins the ball forward where Bartel (from memory) scored his second from the pocket.

It stuck in my mind for two reasons. One cause Yarran was having a dog of a game up till that point so you would have thought he would have wanted to get his hands on the ball. And two, because with his pace and agility he could have exploded onto that ball and been off through the midfield setting up the next play before Chapman ever laid a hand on him.

I thought it was as poor an effort as I've seen this season.


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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 12:12 pm 
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Pro: Our winning of contested ball is ingrained.

Con: Our poor conversion at goal is ingrained.


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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:38 pm 
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33mcconville wrote:
Carlton has won five games this year. Take out the Gold Coast one. The margins add up to 1 goal 39 behinds.

Help needed with goal kicking perhaps?


Thats an ugly stat.

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:16 pm 
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Pro - I think the most pleasing aspect of the loss has been the response from the team.

In all the interviews that i have heard (Murphy and Carazzo spring to mind), they refuse to see it as an honorable loss. They are gutted and the message has been simple - Not good enough.

Its this mind set that has me confident about the next few weeks. The guys know they let a chance go and gone are the days of being happy with an honorable loss.

Con - The lack of respect in the herald-sun's sports liftout on Saturday..The Headline read "Hey Ratten are you still coming?"..as if we had just been flogged.. Very poor, even by HS standards. I know not all teams can be as brave as the Dons, but we do try..


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