All I'm getting out of this is that we think Ratts doesn't perform well in the media, then we somehow try and extrapolate that to his performance in the box and during the week. That's a long bow to draw.

Forget statistics: we played two different brands of football in two halves against Sydney. I'd suggest Ratten is a capable thinker and communicator when it counts, but perhaps he is in need of a paradigm shift.

As for media performance, on the whole it is woeful at the club, and that comes back to the historically inept communications department.

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The kind of confidence Ratts is talking about will come from being 4.1 after 15mins rather than 1.4 and getting hands on the footy, some quality touches, clearances and playing well. Our starts are denting our confidence and its going downhill from there.

Anyone who listened to the interview with an open mind, rather than pre concieved ideas, will have seen that clearly.

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Most were fine. In a couple he looked like he was giving an answer he had rehearsed and they came off alittle stilted.

He was asked if we were soft...............What does anyone actually expect him to say to that? He said we were well beaten around the stoppages and contested footy. He knows we need players to hit in harder but at the moment we have those with the body to do so who don't/won't and those that don't really have the body who can't do it consistently.

He's not a natural on TV but many aren't. Those that didn't want to be impressed weren't so nothing new there.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

I agree with the 6/6.5 rating. He wasn't scintillating, he wasn't abysmal.

Sure he was under the pump, who wouldn't be as despite the front, I am sure that they are disappointed at how things had panned out.

He admitted we were down over the past weeks and lacking in confidence. Good on Mike etc for asking the tough questions. As some have said, would like to see that same grilling of others.

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So you don't think that by pointing out the improvement in the 2nd half on Sunday he is trying to stop the confidence of the team falling further.

Perhaps there are certain players who will respond to his confidence that there were some signs here and there. I have no idea what was said behind closed doors and unless you were there neither do you. Maybe he told some a few home truths. Maybe he thinks some positive reinforcement in certain areas mixed with some home truths elsewhere might be what we need.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

No I don't because it is a hollow sentiment.

IMO Ratten has lost the players and once that happens change is needed. It has nothing to do whether he can coach or not, it is about getting the message across and unfortunately if you look at Ratten's demeanour over the past 2-3 months he is looking like someone who is running out of answers.

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The 'behind closed doors' vs 'public forum (TV/radio)' issue is important to note.

Nort sure the latter has a heap of effect on the players.

Unfortunately, in the past month, the former hasn't had much effect either.

So maybe it's not that important to note after all.

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

BTW, I reckon Wayne Brittain seemed like an excellent communicator.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Confidence is generally described as a state of being certain either that a hypothesis or prediction is correct or that a chosen course of action is the best or most effective[/b].

Above anyone else at the club, i'd suggest that Ratts is in the position of greatest influence.................

Well the Saints had a larger experience gap and we won. I think Ratts wasn't prepared for tonight, he struggled on a number of questions. I only heard excuses, yes we are in the 8 but we are 2-4 the past six weeks and those wins were against rabble, who one of we play again Saturday night!

come on people...settle down...turn on masterchef or millionaire matchmaker !

haven't watched the interview, never will...because it doesn't matter how rats comes across on tv...and wont change my opinion either way....and too much emphasis is being placed on a 15 minute tv slot !

what is important is the job he does in the coaches box....and that is what needs to be assessed...

1. Have we developed a consistent game plan ?

2. Do we have offensive and defensive structures that are able to maximise the strengths of our playing group?

3. Is he able to make moves on game day that neutralise the opposition's strengths and move the momentum of the game our way ?

4. Are players developing and improving under Rats ?

5. Are the players willing to "play" for him ?

These are the questions that we...or more importantly our 'Board' need to answer....

how good was that.

Sounds like you've googled and found a definition for statistical confidence. Confidence as it relates to performance is more a product of self-efficacy or personal efficacy and outcome efficacy. Personal efficacy is the belief that you posses the skills and attributes to be successful at something. Outcome efficacy is more a belief that you can successfully apply those skills to a given situation to effect a positive outcome.

To a large degree the coach can't do much about players personal efficacy (actually that's not entirely true, giving JR an extended run in the 1's did a world of good for his self-belief). And I'd suggest, at least in a psychological sense that outcome efficacy is partly why we don't perform well against certain sides. The players require the structures and game plan to tackle different opponents with different strengths and game styles, and it will change from week to week. Players roles may change, their bodies develop and get stronger. People keep saying they are sick of the young and inconsistent excuse.....but from where our list has come from and lack of depth in the senior core, you don't learn those structures and roles and successfully implement them week after week overnight.

Talking about confidence - part of the problem seems to be Ratts' self confidence. He just doesn't sound like a guy who projects confidence. And trying to instil confidence by lauding our effort of not getting flogged by 40 pts is really clutching at straws. Melb came from as far back as us ag Freeo on the weekend and their coach didn't try to hang his hat on it, evemn tho they were one easy missed set shot from a win.

Anything but quoting another stat. You don't need a big body to not be soft, or have spent 31 weeks more in the gym. It's about contesting and tackling and chasing like you mean it. Really if we can say we didn't score heavily in the first five minutes and therefore it is understandable that we got flogged, then we are going nowhere and we are unlikely to get any tougher. Ratts has got to put the numbers away. At the end of the day there is one stat that matters, and it is kept on the scoreboard. If he quotes endless stats to the players it is little wonder some seem to have turned off.

That is the problem, we have a mentally weak club.

When Mike asked if he thought we were soft, Ratten bluntly said "No", then issued the 31 games on average statement.

31 games does not equal 31 weeks; it's more like 2 - 3 seasons worth of a career when you think about how most players start theirs off, then factor in injuries, form, etc. It's easy to see how Ratten has interpreted the question: are our players physically weak?

He's essentially tried to say "No, they're a bit further back on the curve physically when you look at their level of experience in the AFL system." It's a fair enough comment, and seems obvious when said, but it requires perhaps more of an explanation and an authoritative stance from Ratts to deliver its full meaning. Not that Mike shut up for long enough to find out.

As far as being mentally soft, I think he addressed that in saying our application and confidence are both down. Look hard enough and you'll find your answers. What is frustrating for the average supporter is that Ratts' didn't steer the questions more and turn it into an easily usable quote. Had he done that, a lot of the posts in this thread and a lot of the scathing articles that will be written through the week would be much different in both content and tone.

Although perhaps the players wouldn't have gotten a well-deserved bake in those circumstances.

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20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

He does that in 14% of interviews.

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Our softness over the last few weeks can only partly be excused by inexperience, if at all. Maybe it can explain a mental weakness away.

But is there any excuse for being so far behind the contested ball by quarter time against the Swans?

After the Dogs game I expected us to come out breathing fire on Sunday. Well, I got that wrong didn't I!

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Inexperience?

Walker
Simpson
Waite
Scottland
Judd
Thornton
Houlihan
Hadley
Carrazzo

Eddie Betts and Walker have played 100 games

Marc Murphy is 5 away from his 100th

Russell is 10 away from playing his 100th

Not sticking up for the Bombers here but they are copping an absolute pasting when they have 4 senior players over the age of 25 with the rest a bunch of kids. They had two out there saturday night in Fletcher and McVeigh and there most influential player and on field leader in Hille has been missing

We have 8 or so senior players who take the field who should lead by example and not be in such a rut.

We are getting off waaaaay to lightly here.