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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:38 pm 
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We are talking about a set date on the calendar that is highly family oriented. One day on the calnedar where everyone can just relax and engage. No screaming, no shouting, no cursing... just one day of peace for the body and mind.


I just hope u never lose your car keys on that very special Friday.


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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Christian symbolism and rituals have a place in modern Australia. Even though I don't follow any particular religion, I think it's important to recognise the forces that shaped the society we live in. Christianity played a hugely important role in shaping Australia, and making it the overwhelmingly good place it is to live. I don't see anything wrong with supporting the continuation of such things as Easter, Christmas, etc.



..personally, i don't think christianity has any place in 'modern' australia.. ..correct me if i'm wrong, cos i'm making a guess here.... ..but i'd assume that alot of the countries we get our influx of immigrants from are not christian nations.... ..so, with all the new australians out there, not sure how much christianity is at the forefront of their beliefs..

..as for our country's history, are you including all those quaint christian beliefs in regards to civilising the 'natives' and bringing them into the light, saving their barbaric heathen souls and the like..?.. ..thats where some of the christian beliefs that helped shaped our country lie.. .... ..our country, has a christian western history that goes back a bit over 200 years.... ..and an aborigine dreamtime belief system that goes back another 40k years.. ..so, how christian is this land..?..

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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blue4 wrote:
We are talking about a set date on the calendar that is highly family oriented. One day on the calnedar where everyone can just relax and engage. No screaming, no shouting, no cursing... just one day of peace for the body and mind.


Actually, I thought the observance of religion is a time for introspection and prayer.

Each to their own, I guess.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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..as a country we don't practise anywhere near as much religious tolerance as we preach.... ..you either have public holidays for all religion's holy days, or none.. ..or you let ppl have a set number of days per year that they can take off for religious observance for their personal beliefs.. ..including atheists and agnostics.. .... ..either way, if a person is devout, they'll devote their holy days to their faith, regardless of whatever else happens to be occuring on that day..

..as for the degredation of western society due to capital greed, i concur.. ..however, i would wager that organised religion has done far more harm than good to human relations over the centuries.. ..let's not forget most wars have started on sunday.... ..so much for christians day of rest....

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Is there any good and well thought reason why there should not be a football match on Good Friday?

Reason not emotion sentiment based on our tribal nature (e.g. family time / religiion)


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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Anencephalic wrote:
Is there any good and well thought reason why there should not be a football match on Good Friday?

Reason not emotion sentiment based on our tribal nature (e.g. family time / religiion)


It would clash with the Melb Storm Good Friday game.

NRL ok on GF, AFL will just wreck the day though


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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Is there any good and well thought reasons why there should not be a football match on Good Friday?

Reason not emotion sentiment based on our tribal nature (e.g. family time / religiion)

Are there any good and well thought reason why there should be a match on good Friday?

Reason not emotion sentiment based on our tribal nature (e.g Club/revenue)

Only two clubs will benefit from good Friday football, for the other 14 (soon to be 16) they will still watching the Good friday appeal or answering telephones in a call center somewhere.

To me a real coup would be breaking the ANZAC Day monopoly and getting in on some of that action.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Anencephalic wrote:
Is there any good and well thought reason why there should not be a football match on Good Friday?

Reason not emotion sentiment based on our tribal nature (e.g. family time / religiion)



And emotional sentiments based on our tribal nature have SFA to do with people wanting football on Good Friday? :sly:

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Is Good Friday really that big a "family" day? It was always an opportunity to go camping and/or fishing when I was growing up purely because of the long weekend. It's been said before in this thread that if you want to observe the holiday in whichever way you're accustomed that there's nothing to stop thatcontinuimg regardless of football being played.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..as a country we don't practise anywhere near as much religious tolerance as we preach.... ..you either have public holidays for all religion's holy days, or none.. ..or you let ppl have a set number of days per year that they can take off for religious observance for their personal beliefs.. ..including atheists and agnostics.. .... ..either way, if a person is devout, they'll devote their holy days to their faith, regardless of whatever else happens to be occuring on that day..

..as for the degredation of western society due to capital greed, i concur.. ..however, i would wager that organised religion has done far more harm than good to human relations over the centuries.. ..let's not forget most wars have started on sunday.... ..so much for christians day of rest....


BKB,

My current writing project is on these themes - when I'm done I'll PM you if you'd like to have a read. :wink:

my take is religious conversion & colonisation created this nation, so it is essentali for all of us to turn to our religions - our more pertinently our spiritual beliefs in day to day living, so our white/black/yellow history can be lived out in contemporarily. If not, I think our future will be fairly bland, directionless and an endgame. JOhn Howard for gov. gen. :?: :razz:

Cheer up 79V. :donk:

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:13 am 
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blueslander wrote:

Only two clubs will benefit from good Friday football, for the other 14 (soon to be 16) they will still watching the Good friday appeal or answering telephones in a call center somewhere.



..that goes for every friday football is played on, sans the telethon.. ..unless with the expansion teams we get two friday night games in the future, either way whether there's a holiday or not, only one game is played on a friday at the moment anyway.. ..not sure i follow the point of this ^^..

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Wojee wrote:
Is Good Friday really that big a "family" day? It was always an opportunity to go camping and/or fishing when I was growing up purely because of the long weekend.


You just answered your own question IMO.

There is nothing wrong with forcing people 1 day a year to find their own entertainment.

A lot of parents spend their Sundays at Highpoint or Chadstone. In the old days, families used to go on picnics or long drives. Then they started 7 day shopping (which I'm for btw) and Maccas at the food court replaced a Sunday BBQ.
I would prefer a few days a year where everything is shut.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:48 am 
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Golly...is this debate still raging?

All this banter and discussion is well and good, but largely a moot point: it's inevitable that AFL matches will one day be played on Good Friday - it mightn't happen during Demetriou's watch, but it will happen, and it's just a matter of when...and which teams participate.

Almost regardless of the teams involved, the perceived rivalry that'll eventually be built from the 'tradition' of the Good Friday clash will guarantee interest and large numbers through the gate. They may as well be there to see us, I reckon, and we'd be mad not to put our hand up and fight for this slot.

Timing will be everything in order to snare the first Good Friday dance, and no doubt the political manoeuvring and jostling is well underway behind closed doors. The time to strike will formally arrive when Demetriou and some of the more 'traditional' members of the AFL Commission move on, but the groundwork and preparation needs to be done now, and we'd best hope that we're working closely with our dance partner (Hawthorn) to ensure we don't miss this invitation.

Rest assured every club will have a crack at this, despite the ins and outs of all being said in this thread.


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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:16 am 
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The Carlton Football Club is pleased to announce to all its members and supporters Australia wide that in Brisbane on Good Friday, April 2nd 2010 - the Club will be participating in Good Friday Foosball. The announcement, not yet made official by the AFL, will further enhance Carlton's position as one of Australia's most popular sporting clubs in the eyes of sponsors and of its fans. The Club is also delighted to announce that this event will be gold coin donation with all proceeds going to the RCH Good Friday Appeal.

An exuberant Carlton captain, Chris Judd said that the players were already looking forward to displaying their skills in front of a large crowd on Good Friday. "We're ecstatic. As a playing group we've known about this for some time and it's been our primary focus in training just prior to Christmas. Obviously it's been difficult not being able to tell anyone, but now that it's public knowledge we hope our supporters understand why our training has taken on some different forms this pre-season. We're in pretty good shape and can't wait for Good Friday to roll around"


Carlton @ Brisbane - Good Friday Foosball
Gate 38, Brisbane International Airport
April 2, 2010.





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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
The Carlton Football Club is pleased to announce to all its members and supporters Australia wide that in Brisbane on Good Friday, April 2nd 2010 - the Club will be participating in Good Friday Foosball. The announcement, not yet made official by the AFL, will further enhance Carlton's position as one of Australia's most popular sporting clubs in the eyes of sponsors and of its fans. The Club is also delighted to announce that this event will be gold coin donation with all proceeds going to the RCH Good Friday Appeal.

An exuberant Carlton captain, Chris Judd said that the players were already looking forward to displaying their skills in front of a large crowd on Good Friday. "We're ecstatic. As a playing group we've known about this for some time and it's been our primary focus in training just prior to Christmas. Obviously it's been difficult not being able to tell anyone, but now that it's public knowledge we hope our supporters understand why our training has taken on some different forms this pre-season. We're in pretty good shape and can't wait for Good Friday to roll around"


Carlton @ Brisbane - Good Friday Foosball
Gate 38, Brisbane International Airport
April 2, 2010.





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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Stacked the midfield, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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..still on the booze i see..

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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buzzaaaah wrote:
Wojee wrote:
Is Good Friday really that big a "family" day? It was always an opportunity to go camping and/or fishing when I was growing up purely because of the long weekend.


You just answered your own question IMO.

There is nothing wrong with forcing people 1 day a year to find their own entertainment.

A lot of parents spend their Sundays at Highpoint or Chadstone. In the old days, families used to go on picnics or long drives. Then they started 7 day shopping (which I'm for btw) and Maccas at the food court replaced a Sunday BBQ.
I would prefer a few days a year where everything is shut.


..there ought not be any need for 'forcing' anyone to do anything though [in this regard].. .... ..it should all be about individual choice.. ..like you said, when we were young there was no weekend trading, so ppl may have used their 'free' days differently.. ..now, ppl are busy busy busy.... ..but it's still their choice to be that way.. ..there need not be any difference between the old days and the new days, ppl can still get together for picnics, go to church, go camping, fishing whatever.... ..or, conversely,, they can go shopping etc etc.. ..go back a bit further and there was only saturday football, and sunday was a full day of rest.. .... ..times have changed, neither for the better nor for the worse necessarily either.. ..it's now up to us, individually to make our own choice, and live with the consequences,.. ..good or bad, cause and effect..

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 Post subject: Re: Good Friday Football
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Players will be forced to work on a holiday though eh???

Cos some people have no clue what to do with themselves...

Its just the selfish era psyche

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