In the 8 drafts prior to 2005 I reckon Murphy is/will be better than 5 off the no 1 picks as per below:
1997 - Travis Johnstone
1998 - Des Headland
1999 - Josh Fraser
2002 - Brendan Goddard
2004 - Brett Deledio

Definitely not a stand out no 1 pick but not disappointing by any means.

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Good point. Never give a sucker an even break. We struggled after half time, but Sydney do play a bit like a soccer team. They get ahead then focus on holding their lead. If we led by 5 goals at half time they would have had to chase the game.

Amazing to think we dropped our worst kick for goal in Fisher and now our best kick in Fev is losing us games by missing heaps of gettable shots.

Not sure you are watching the same Murphy as me Keogh. Seems to be zippy in the packs has been nailing some great long spearing passes and is a dead eye dick around goals. Gun player.

Noone helped teammates yesterday which made moving the ball on hard. Judd was forced to just handpass wildly on a number of occasions due to there being no overlap. Maybe Murphy did a couple of those also.

Time we all moved on after a bad game.

Looking forward to next weeks hitout.

we are starting to look a bit like the team that played in bunbury

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

trash thread.

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dane's trolling again

It's a price I'm prepared to pay Melvey.

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Congratulations CK95

Cons: Kicking at goal.

- My wife who is English and only new to following real football asked me qustion whilst watching the game, 'Why can't they kick straight?' I simply did not have an answer for her.

It was a disgrace. That is two weeks in a row that kicking at goal has let us down. What a shame.

And after the Doggies getting stitched up today, next week is going to be very tough.

Goddard has taken a while, but he's a gun of the comp these days. Murphy's a fine player with plenty of improvement in him.

I have time for Murphy.
he gives his all

Just reckon he might be short of top class.

In saying that he is still young

This is definitely a pro, but may seem so in a backhanded kind of way:

Most of the news articles about our match against the Swans described the result as an upset.

Been years since we've been considered firm favourites for matches against teams which have been steady finalists for years.

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You might be right. Probably good enough to be a steady top 50 player, maybe not a top 20. Not too far off though and is kicking goals now which is important.

PROS........ if we played like that 3 years ago we would have lost by 117 not 17.
Thats it got nothing else !

CONS....... Two losses in a row to 2 very ordinary teams
Like most posters...only saw it on tv........ but.....when we lose our
way/structure/call it what you like, where is that fabled plan B?
Someone mentioned "dumb" ? Couldnt agree more !
Have some got ahead of themselves ? Sure exhibiting signs of it.
Fev.....4 weeks in and you have basically done sfa apart from a few against
Brisbane when they needed them.....from your own mouth if youre on the park
youre 100% ready to go...how about doing that and leave the sooky la las
where they belong........ IN THE UNDER FRICKIN NINES FFS!!!!
I think every diehard supporter would be genuinely dismayed at the lack of
intensity/tackles/footy smarts shown in the last 2 weeks.
Are they paying attention to what the coach is saying ?

So much more to add but im sure others will chime in

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He is already a very solid player. Starting add in amazing stuff like that goal against brizzy and that Deisel like handball to betts in round one. The poise of the boundary goal against the Bombers. He is all class. When things like those start coming into his game more regularly he will be one worth paying to see.

I see him being one of the best onballers in the league in 3 years.

Pro :

- I don't live in Sydney. What a hole. Couldn't wait to get back down the highway.

- Sydney Supporters. The only thing that cheered me up all day. My favourite quote was from a bloke with the Loyal Member cap, scarf nattily draped around the neck and the brand new replica jumper. He was looking at Grundy who is a fairly big unit, if solidly muppet like with his ability. This bloke goes to his mate "that 39, he is our new Canadian bloke, Martin Pike". Wrong player, wrong name anyway - sums up Sydney supporters.

- Wiggo and that muppet LRT hitting each other at top speed, bouncing off and playing on. Awesome and what footy used to be about.

Enough cons from everyone else to go around. VV disappointing though.

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Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

scha⋅den⋅freu⋅de
/ˈʃɑdnˌfrɔɪdə/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [shahd-n-froi-duh] -
noun satisfaction or pleasure felt at someone else's misfortune.

You can't please all of the people, all of the time.

Some are never happy.

Pro

Bower's return to form and usefulness was great to see. He was one of our best one on one defenders all game and used his run on a number of occasions.
Murphy managing to get a cracking goal, making it 8 straight for the year.
Betts. Effective.
Judd

Con

Skill errors from senior players without pressure; with that happening its bound to hit the other players when the pressure is on.
Bad kicking for goal - one guy at the pub I watched it at said 'we've just lost the game' in the second quarter and he was spot on.
No assistance for Kreuzer (ruck tactics)

Can't believe you don't think he will be top class

I don't think that it's coincidence that Goddard has flourished with Grant Thomas no longer coaching St Kilda.



Pro:

With no Austar I didn't sit through what sounds like a frustrating game to watch.


Con:

We still have a lot of work to do.

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