Hey Melvey were you actually at the press conference yesterday? Or are you merely relying on what was in the print media to establish what was or wasn't said in the press conference?

Swann on 3AW last night was asked all these questions about the club, the judd deal, trade week but not one question about the actual environmental apsect of the deal. Swann took it upon himself to actually spruik the environmental beneifts of the deal and what green issues the club were actually aspiring to!

Mate if you think Swann and the club are now amateurish and ignorant then i think you need to get out more and are far more deluded that I thought originally!

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The glass is neither half full nor half empty. Rather the glass is twice as big than required.

Eagerly awaiting your reply Melvey.

Regards Cazzesman.

PS Any thoughts on the Lions game.

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

I think he may have gone missing with Biffin and ADP

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From the architects renders, it looks like there's room for 12 more premiership cups in the display.

that'd be about right.

Greg Swann "um this partnership is good for um the um environment um issues"

Greg Swann "we can make our own water"

Uninformed, ignorant, no respect and unprofessional.

and no i wasn't there. Watch news reports, watched the video on the website. Nothing was mentioned, nor is it on our the clubs website. Total grandstanding if you ask me.

So don't read his posts, it's not that hard.

He's allowed to be negative if he wants to.[/quote

And he is allowed to say he is negative if he wants to

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Go BLues

I think it's totally ironic that you have taken such a stance on this Melvey.

Your favourites, Collingwood, are the kings of grandstanding no matter how small or how immoral the announcement or subject is. You are always banging on about how we need to keep up with or better them in any way possible, and when we finally make everyone sit up and take notice of us you still have something to gripe about?

FFS, enjoy life for once!!

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"If everyone is moving forward together, then success takes care of itself" - Henry Ford

if you read my post i said i am excited with the announcement of the development. Disappointed with the lack of awareness of such a major issue that the club decided to head down this path 'going green'. It would have helped sell the idea much better that i thought came across as thank you very much $ir Richard

life is beautiful

So Melvey, by saying that Swann is "Uninformed, ignorant, no respect and unprofessional"...

do you mean that he is all of those things because he didn't properly sell the huge environmental leap forward the CFC has embarked upon?

Because even a five minute study of Visy Park would tell you that the environmental story is little more than window dressing. It's a high-performance centre for elite athletes, with some community access. The 'green' tinge is a nice way for Visy's sponsorship to have some relevance, and for the money Visy pays to Juddy to remain legit.

Solar hot water... water tanks... shit, I've got those at home. A small lecture theatre that can be used to teach the kiddies about the environment, but will be mostly used by the football department? right...

Or would you prefer that Swann shamefacedly bullshitted to us all via the media?

THIS is a great news story for our football club. Seeing bad in it is, well, it almost seems pathologically bleak.

And he is allowed to SAY he is negative if he wants to

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Should tide us over for the next 20 years or so...

it is a great news story for the club and HAVE SAID THAT.

Why would he need to bullshit. I heard him say we are going green about 10 times, how is the club going green?? what made the club decide to head down this path?? what will the new facility do to help the environmental issue effecting us all today?? why are they really concerned?? or are they happy to spin shit to get what they want without giving a hoot.

Melvey... see below my post... all will be explained...

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No matter how long it takes Carlton to rebuild, they will still win a premiership before Essendon* and Collingwood.

very clever

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Touche.

Never said he couldn't.

I just don't understand why some posters get so worked up about Melvey.

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I AM DISENFRANCHISED

Melvey is green. Green with envy.

I hope the designers of the lecture theatre for the kiddies have watched A Clockwork Orange.

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Very, very, very, very, very wierdly...




...I'm with Melvey.


If the club is serious about going green then GO GREEN.

The environmental benefits of what's being proposed aren't much greater than what's now standard for a bullshit "5 star" housing project (which is currently ridiculously low).

If we want to be seen to be leaders in the area we should be setting out to be carbon neutral at the least and preferably having a positive impact on the environment. There are that many ways we can do it and they're all relatively affordable over the medium term (and will in fact pay for themselves within a 10 year time frame).



Why put the greenwash on a development that's a lame-arsed attempt at being green when there's enough there to sell it as an elite training facility?

By connecting VISY to a project that's only paying lip-service to environmental issues all they due is question the validity of VISY's own green credentials.

As Melvey effectively said (did I really write that? ) there's no need to talk up the lame parts of this. It's all a bit "Beyond Petroleum" for mine.

Maybe the building's green credentials will be worked up over the rest of the design phase but if you were going to launch this as a "green building" then you'd want to be listing quite a few more benefits than what's currently been shown.

Had we done this properly (and I mean really properly) then the world's media would have been knocking on the door to know about the professional sporting club that is paving the way to a genuine green future.

I can't hear them knocking...

Other than that - great that the players will finally have some decent facilities.

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Turkish Proverb

From what I have been told the display area will be modest in the new development.

I think the best opportunity for a decent hall of fame/blueseum for the club will be something in the historic Ald Gardiner stand. But that would be a few years down the track, there will be an idea or two floated around here after the season that might help something like this get off the ground.

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btw agree with the posters here highlighting the green-ness of this development. It is window dressing and calling the development green is stretching things. Perhaps it could best be described as green for a football club development.

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