The point that I was trying to make Hoggy was to give the guy a break, not to titilate with gossip.

My sources, inside or otherwise were not the issue or the reason for the posting.

If his child is sick, then you are grossly mistaken if you think that I was looking for a cheap score in posting.

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The coach and MC should drop Whitnall based on poor form....petitions and polls are equally poor form.

Lance has had chances and younger players like Hartlett need to be rewarded ...like I said on another thread it would be better if Lance resigned as captain and had a few weeks off to sort himself out ...that would be leadership and I would respect him if he chose that option....

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The chorus of 'I told you so' from some around here would be unbearable if Lance were to resign.

Man I would hate to be any player with Carlton if you guys were the MC. Is there anyone on this site with any social skills what so ever? Geez

Petition has failed Lance is still in.

I think 4 more games will determine Whitnall fate,6 games is enough time to get some runs on the board. If he struggles and the team is hurting that's one player short, the club has to demote Captain or not.

No one player can control the team no matter how good he is,there is other scratching for their chance to play. I think 6 games is fair,some might say half a season,but that could be the difference of making the 8 or winning like 10 games.

All the Best on him trying to get back to the best hopefully on the forward line,maybe on a forward pocket,not just playing on the backline taking marks but not being a running back player with speed, just saving some goals but not creating much.

I agree Rambo. Let's give him a decent go. 5-6 games would seem appropriate to me. And it must be up forward. We have a very strong, fast backline now and Lance doesn't need to fill holes anymore. Although there may be a couple of forwards that Lance matches up well on and might be worth using on those occasions. But I much prefer him forward.

Could have informed us of that without breaching any privacy of the Whitnall's. Leave that to the media.

How is it your place to inform people on a public forum, largely read by journalists of the mainstream media, of such a thing when you not only cannot be 100% sure it is true, but have no permission from the Whitnall's if it were true, to post it.

It's just irresponsible.

Your a strange one Hoggy - have read your thoughts on the 'old hag' that Teague injured in the car accident.

Not sure how I could have informed you other than by saying that Red is actually suffering from some personal issues that I cannot divulge but let's just say it's quite serious.

If I stated that his child had AIDS, then go for your life in having a go at me.

His child is sick. End story. Leave him alone.

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That would have been sufficient.

can anyone get Whitnall's stats against Essendon*.

must be above average.

After 633 posts, you must be new to the site!

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If you go by a combination of possessions/marks/tackles/hitouts/goals/behinds/frees for and against Essendon* are his 2nd best team. Averages 16 possessions, 8 marks and 2 goals

thanks alot

Why should Lance keep his position with poor stats? Because Lance is a 200 game Veteran, a Carlton captain and not a flower rookie - thats why he deserves a break. The reality is that we're a not gonna make a premiership and Lance ISN"T going to prevent us from making finals. So lets keep a club great in the side long enough to make a fair and reasonable judgement on dropping him. You dont drop a club captain after only 2 @#$%&! weeks of poor form. We should give Lance the respect he has earned.

Why not blood a young rookie into the team? If we're not going to make a premiership, then why not? If it's players like him that are pulling us back, we need to use this time to find out whether the other players on our list can play or not.

It's not just 2 weeks of poor form either. It's more like 6 weeks. Why can't he do an Yze?

Let him kick a bag of 6, take 10 marks in the VFL to gain some confidence then get him back into the side. He's not going to gain confidence by getting 4 kicks a game and no marks in the seniors.

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I believe that young talent still need direction and Carlton have so few leaders in the team that taking away another mature player is not the right decision.

Is leadership being selfish on the footy field? Failing to shepherd, failing to call players into position? I have my doubts as whether Lance is leading at the moment. It seems to be Stevens leading.

If Lance has personal problems, let him have time off to deal with them. We should be supporting him through those. But at the moment, it's helping no-one playing him when out of form, not showing his normal leadership and direction on the field.

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WEAK AS PISS

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Nah lets just get rid of Whitnall

Hes played half a game round 1 and didnt get many possessions against geelong so lets put him in the bullants While his confidence is down lets put a bit more of a dint in it and put him in the reserves

Hes lost all his value, if i was kevin sheedy and he was in the forwardline i I would put my worst defender on him and put the better defenders on kennedy and co

I hear the same crap in this rooms about whitnall every week.

If Whitnall goes in the reserves who you guys going to B!tch about