tommi started it!!!

I'm in the Synbad/George Harris camp here. It's totally embarrassing, and if Lance is proven to have sent any of those sms messages he should be stripped of the captaincy immediately.

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Lance is Captain and will stay captain for at least the next two years so it's time some people realize that he isnt going anywhere.

This story shouldn't have been reported it isn't newsworthy. The article should be used as toilet paper.

Lance is the best leader on field and will lead the club back in the finals in two years times.

He might not be the best Captain in the AFL. Some might say he is the worst captain in the AFL. But one thing I am certain of he is the best player at the club for the job.

Its not Lances fault that there are not better leaders at the club.

Lance is not aa leader... he will struggle to hold down a spot this year.

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The newly appointed captain of this footy club, against the background of negative publicity we've had lately (and his "no watch" fiasco) should have NEVER taken this issue to the courts - unless his very life was at risk. Was it?

End of story.

You've gotta wonder sometimes, honestly.

Obviously he felt it was serious enough to take it to the courts

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Anyone who thinks this is not newsworthy and shouldn't have been reported is kidding themselves - it's comes with being high profile.

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C'mon every body has a argument or a fight at some stage even the best of them,the mistake is taking stupid court actions between blood especially as we all have a idea what's probably happen someone probably doesn't like someone and of course it's going to effect the other two.

This won't go away for a while a guy can forget about it and even have a drink with them even if they don't get a long but a lot of girls will hold grudge on another girl for years if they have a fight.It's probably a sexist remark to some,but i know plenty including my sister,lol,who would not talk to another girl they don't like or even work with them if they work together.

I seen the Today tonight special and you could see that Shane was hurting,that he wanted things back to how it was,but to me it looks like he had to choose between his brother and wife,so he is in a no win position,probably thinking his marriage will fail.

I didn't want him to be Captain and still would have wanted kota or Stevens until Marc Murphy was ready,believe me he is going to be better then Gibbs.

What i see with Murphy,he is the best player we recruited since Fevola. I think Gibbs will be great also,but from day one Murphy done things on the field that some have taken 4 years to do in his first season.

Those messages that lance sent on msn is just the same as going to his place and talking to him in a argument,it means nothing,it looks bad because it's kept on record.

There has probably been lots of 30s,40s,50s,60s and so on players playing for Carlton or whoever who have probably had a family argument saying for example I'm gonna knock your head off and the other saying how going to that, I'm going to hit you with this shovel and bury you at the backyard in those days and the next day they having a beer.

It wouldn't have been a issue as there wasn't all this mobile phone that someone would cry and save the message and show everyone and then get everybody talking about it.

Say this happen to Murphy,say he was now our captain,he was just married to a nice girl,his brother gets married to a nice girl,the girls both hate each other with a passion,nobody knows why maybe one hat a fat bum and the other hasn't or is a blonde and the other is a brunette or one is skinnier then the other.Something happen they fight,will Murphy be quiet and get a earful for not backing his girl,of course he will,so he will defend her,but hopefully do it face to face,but try to resolve it.

The Captaincy is already given to Whitnall, i don't think the club should take it off him now,they would look stupid, but they should just tell him to work out the family issue without going to court and talking to the press.

Spot on Brad - that's why I responded to GH's comment the way I did. He, and others, who never wanted him captain in the first place are screaming the loudest.

For what its worth if its proved Lance sent a text message talking about getting a hitman then given the events of the last week or so he should step down. You just have to wonder why anyone would think the courts are appropriate places to deal with family disputes. I do think there must be more to this though as the AFP would normally not be interested in intervention orders.

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Argue personal standards of 'newsworthy' all you like - that's not the point. If something makes the press someone has deemed it to be newsworthy. Id argue their standards are more appropriate because they are in the news. This is newsworthy, and looks terrible.

None of this makes any sense. Surely, two grown men would not be arguing and issuing death threats over a kids birthday party.
There has to be more to it than that. Although I can believe it's something trivial that the two women would get involved in.
And as for those text messages that supposedly came from Lance, well it's a bit hard to understand why he would send a text message refering to "my dad". WTF? Don't they have the same dad?
First we have Brendan and Alex airing their dirty laundry in public, now we have the captain threatening to kill his own brother with a hitman!
If only Lance would show that much passion and aggression on the field!

Betcha it's the Women's fault ......I'm not all that interested really.

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Bash Lance is the main game around here.

We have a history of shady players Buckley, Nichols, Johnston et al...

But because he has Red hair, we kick shit out of Lance (which is probably fair, now that I think about it! ) Na.

I'm true blue and want to support our Captain for better or worse...


Fair dinkum this place is becoming more like Tigerland everyday!

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He might have been good playing in that era too...

But hes too short ..too slow... too unathletic...and too unprofessional for this era...
Noone hates him cos he has red hair.. or that he is fat... ill speak for myself but i dont think he is much chop in this side... he has no to little influence in the modern game.

His kind (Mick Nolan etc )belong to another era..
Hes like Joe the cameraman .. "cant run.. cant jump.. cant chase" at a time where all those things are crucial as to make sure youre not playing with a man short

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How on earth then could a guy this useless win our B&F last year? I know we werent great last year, but I would have thought our coaching panel still know more about football then you, me and 10 others here combined.

I just find the senseless bashing a bit hard to bear. and not just from Synbad, from many on here.

Lance is our captain for better or worse, we have had a good start to footy we should be pretty happy, but no all we want to do is kick shit out of our Captain, and like it or not one of our best players of the last 10 years......



Richo eat your heart out!

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Dont hear you defending Teague . he won a bnf too...

means nothing in regard to where we need to go today (tomorrow)

should the teaguestar be in the side cos he won the medal too???

their pace is a liability in todays game... simple as that.

ok so one is courageous and the other is supposed to be smart... but hey... they are a liability.

The opposition will play through Lance all season long.

By the way who have been our captains opponents so far?
Which gun footallers has the opposition sacrificed to stop Lance???

Do you know???

2 games... so far.. who has played on him.

Wanna try and tell me??

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My point is should he have been in the side round 1 2005? Yes. (Teague).

Winning our B & F in 2006 says little apart from the fact that he was our most consistent player in that year....

Doesnt mean he has turned to shit in between seasons.

And beside all of this , i am just sick of Carlton supporters bagging our own players and in particular our Captain, we used to be better than that.

Lance is our captain, learn to live with it and move on. Better judges than you and I have decided that, or are you more football savvy than our Match committee?

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Definitely more savvy than alot of the match committee.
Lance is a liability....!!!

Or dont you follow the trends and digest whats going on in footy???

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Well I'm flabbergasted that the rest of the AFL community hasnt picked up on your incredible know how.

You should apply for Pagans job...... it would be soo amazing if we could put your football brain towards Carlton rather than against it.


Nothing really wrong with different opinions , but to believe you have a better grip than an AFL match committee...well, lets say delusions of grandeur!!!

I do like your stuff Synbad it's generally a good read, but the non-stop shitcanning of our captain is just too much...

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